Re: how

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Sujet : Re: how
De : invalid (at) *nospam* example.invalid (Moebius)
Groupes : sci.math
Date : 03. May 2024, 21:38:08
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Am 03.05.2024 um 18:59 schrieb WM:
 > Le 03/05/2024 à 16:33, Moebius a écrit :
 >> IN and ω are IDENTICAL in modern/axiomatic set theory (say ZF(C))
 >
 > showing that <bla ba bla>
Mückenheim, Du verstehst (so wie die beiden Deppen RR und TB) wirklich _nichts_ von zeitgenössischer (d. i. axiomatischer) Mengenlehre. Eine /geordnete Menge/ ist hier ein geordnetes Paar (M, <), wo M die Menge ist, um die es geht und < eine auf M definierte Ordnung. Allerdings besitzen die Elemente in IN bzω. ω schon eine "implizite" Ordnung durch die von von Neumann angegebene Konstruktion. Man kann dann definieren: n < m iff n e m (n,m e ω).
Die einzige in diesem Zusammenhang noch offene Frage ist, wer dümmer ist: Du, RR oder TB?

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