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On 4/23/24 2:06 PM, WM wrote:ω - 1 is undefined, however its always less than ω, kidding around here. Just like all natural numbers are less than ω. So, say ω - 1 = 0... rofl... Wow! lol. Fair enough for a jest, or interesting at all? Funny?Le 22/04/2024 à 20:02, FromTheRafters a écrit :But if ω - 1 existed, it would be before ω, and thus less than it.WM has brought this to us :>Le 21/04/2024 à 00:44, FromTheRafters a écrit :>WM wrote :>>>What is a gap in the ordinals?>
It is a not existing ordinal between two ordinals. It is a not existing natural number next to ω, for instance.
Sets do not have not existing elements.
What is ω - 1?
An absurdity.
Not more nor less than ω.
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Regards, WM
That is the definition of ordinal numbers.
But since it is NOT a "finite" number, as "ω - 1" + 1 would be ω and not a finite number, but all finite numbers + 1 give the next finite number, and ω is DEFINED as the first transfinite ordinal, it can not exist.
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