Re: Does the number of nines increase?

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Sujet : Re: Does the number of nines increase?
De : invalid (at) *nospam* example.invalid (Moebius)
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Date : 16. Jul 2024, 15:45:49
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Am 16.07.2024 um 16:34 schrieb Moebius:
Am 16.07.2024 um 16:23 schrieb WM:
Le 16/07/2024 à 16:18, Moebius a écrit:
 
In der heutigen Mathematik, die auf der Mengenlehre basiert ("classical mathematics"), gilt selbstverständlich ebenfalls
>
      Ax Ey (y < x) ,
>
Die ist ja auch <bla>
 Gut, dass wir darüber geredet haben, Mückenheim.
 Du hast jetzt also verstanden, dass man zwischen
 |         Ax Ey (y < x)
| und
|         Ey Ax (y < x)
 unterscheiden muss? Insbesondere wenn der Kontext z. B. die reellen oder rationalen oder ganzen Zahlen sind?
 Dann hast Du ja jetzt endlich auch joes Aussage verstanden:
 "As has been repeated, there is no single fixed number less than all numbers. However, every number has a smaller one." (joe)
 In Zeichen: Ey Ax (y < x) ist falsch, aber Ax Ey (y < x) ist wahr.
Man kann das leicht verschärfen, es gilt nämlich
                 Ax (1/(1/x + 1) < x) ,
wenn der Kontext "die Stammbrücke" sind. Man kann es auch etwas ausführlicher hinschreiben, um das explizit zu machen:
                 Ax e {1/n : n e IN}: 1/(1/x + 1) < x ,
                 "Für jeden Stammbruch x, ist 1/(1/x + 1) kleiner als x."
Und ja, Mückenheim, außerhalb der Irrenanstalt in Mückenhausen gilt:
                 Ax e {1/n : n e IN}: (1/(1/x + 1) e {1/n : n e IN} .
                 "Für jeden Stammbruch x, ist 1/(1/x + 1) ein Stammbruch."

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