Sujet : Re: How many different unit fractions are lessorequal than all unit fractions? (infinitary)
De : james.g.burns (at) *nospam* att.net (Jim Burns)
Groupes : sci.mathDate : 02. Nov 2024, 19:45:17
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On 11/2/2024 6:15 AM, WM wrote:
On 02.11.2024 01:55, Richard Damon wrote:
Infinite sets do not need to have both ends in them.
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Between 0 and 1 there are unit fractions.
Hence there must be a first one.
A.
⎛ S can be given a total ordering which is
⎜ well-ordered both forwards and backwards.
⎜ That is, every non-empty subset of S has
⎝ both a least and a greatest element in the subset.
[1]
A. isn't true of all sets.
If, at some point in time,
you _define_ A. to be true of all sets,
then
for a set S of which A. is false,
that set S does not change.
What changes is
which sets are in our discourse:
Claims about "a set" (after A. is claimed)
are not claims about S.
If you "change" S so that A. is true,
the "changed" S _is not S_
[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finite_setNecessary and sufficient conditions for finiteness
3. (Paul Stäckel)
The interval without unit fractions and
the interval containing unit fractions
are separated by the smallest unit fraction.
The set ⅟ℕ of all unit fractions
⎛ the set of reciprocals to ℕ⁺
⎜ where ℕ⁺ is the minimal set of those
⎝ holding 1 and closed under n↦n+1
does not hold a smallest element.
A. is not true of ⅟ℕ
If you augment ⅟ℕ with more elements
that is a different set.
A. is still not true of ⅟ℕ
If you, nonetheless, assert A.
A. is true of _all the sets in the discourse_
Because A. is not true of ⅟ℕ,
⅟ℕ is not in the discourse.
After A., claims about "sets" are not
claims about ⅟ℕ