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On 11/17/2024 12:30 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:How about Finsler and Boffa?On 11/16/2024 08:57 PM, Jim Burns wrote:>On 11/16/2024 11:35 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:On 11/16/2024 08:18 PM, Jim Burns wrote:On 11/16/2024 7:17 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:On 11/16/2024 02:46 PM, Jim Burns wrote:On 11/16/2024 5:31 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:On 11/16/2024 12:29 PM, Jim Burns wrote:On 11/16/2024 12:07 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:>you have ignored Russell his paradox and so on>
No.
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Selecting axioms which do not suffer from claiming
that the set of all non.self.membered sets
is self.membered or claiming it isn't
is not ignoring Russel,
it is responding to Russell.
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Russell points out that
_we do not want_ to claim
that the set of all non.self.membered sets
is self.membered or claiming it isn't.
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We respond: Okay, we'll stop doing that.>Bzzt, flake-out.
It's not pretty the act of making lies.>Quote what I wrote which you think is a lie.>
"We respond"
⎛ The modern study of set theory was initiated by
⎜ Georg Cantor and Richard Dedekind in the 1870s.
⎜ However,
⎜ the discovery of paradoxes in naive set theory,
⎜ such as Russell's paradox,
⎜ led to the desire for
⎜ a more rigorous form of set theory
⎝ that was free of these paradoxes.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zermelo%E2%80%93Fraenkel_set_theory
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Got anything else?
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