Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers

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Sujet : Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers
De : wolfgang.mueckenheim (at) *nospam* tha.de (WM)
Groupes : sci.math
Date : 18. Nov 2024, 17:24:19
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On 17.11.2024 21:16, joes wrote:
Am Sun, 17 Nov 2024 12:19:32 +0100 schrieb WM:
On 17.11.2024 12:01, FromTheRafters wrote:
WM was thinking very hard :
On 16.11.2024 22:33, Moebius wrote:
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For example "aleph_0 - aleph_0" is not defined.
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Small wonder. ℵo means only infinitely many: |ℕ|, |ℚ|, and many
others. |ℕ|-|ℕ| however is defined.
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No, it is not.
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If sets are invariable then ℕ \ ℕ is empty.
If |ℕ| concerns only the elements of ℕ, then |ℕ|-|ℕ|= 0.

The number |N|=|Q|=Aleph_0 is the same regardless of the set.
Yes it is the expression that the set has infinitely many elements. But it is not specific to any set.
If you subtract any natural number from ℕ, then you have another set, no longer ℕ. But the cardinality remains ℵo. Therefore it does not describe the set ℕ.

If you define the difference to be zero, it doesn't matter.
Of course not. ℵo means infinitely many, not more.
Regards, WM

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