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On 27.11.2024 13:32, Richard Damon wrote:>On 11/27/24 5:12 AM, WM wrote:Yes, the same number of elements, but not the same number of natural numbers.Of course. |{1, 2, 3, 4, ...}| = |ℕ| and |{2, 3, 4, ...}| = |ℕ| - 1 is consistent.>
So you think, but that is because you brain has been exploded by the contradiction.
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We can get to your second set two ways, and the set itself can't know which.
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We could have built the set by the operation of removing 1 like your math implies, or we can get to it by the operation of increasing each element by its successor, which must have the same number of elements,
Hint: Decreasing every element in the real interval (0, 1] by one point yields the real interval [0, 1). The set of points remains the same, the set of positive points decreases by 1.But what number changes "natural number" status?
Replacing every element of the set {0, 1, 2, 3, ...} by its successor yields {1, 2, 3, ..., ω}. The number of ordinals remains the same, the number of finite ordinals decreases.Nope, because omega is NOT the successor for any natural number, the successor of EVERY Natural Number is a Natural Number.
Regards, WMSo, you are just showing your ignorance of the definitions things you are talking about, because you are using a logic that has gone inconsistent and blown up your brain.
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