Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)

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Sujet : Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)
De : noreply (at) *nospam* example.org (joes)
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Date : 13. Dec 2024, 15:41:46
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Am Fri, 13 Dec 2024 09:42:36 +0100 schrieb WM:
On 13.12.2024 03:29, Richard Damon wrote:
On 12/12/24 9:44 AM, WM wrote:
On 12.12.2024 13:26, Richard Damon wrote:
On 12/12/24 4:53 AM, WM wrote:
On 12.12.2024 01:38, Richard Damon wrote:
On 12/11/24 9:04 AM, WM wrote:
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In mathematics, a set A is Dedekind-infinite (named after the
German mathematician Richard Dedekind) if some proper subset B of
A is equinumerous to A. [Wikipedia].
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So? That isn't what Cantor was talking about in his pairings
It is precisely this.
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No, Cantors pairing is between two SETS, not a set and its subset.
Yes, we can call the subset a set, since it is, but then when we look
at it for the pairing, we need to be looking at its emancipated
version, not the version tied into the original set.
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Both is the same. In emancipated version it is not as obvious as in
the subset version.
 
Nope, when the subset is considered as its own independent set, the
operation you want to do isn't part of its operations.
 
The subset is considered as its own independent set D = {10n | n ∈ ℕ}
and then it is attached to the set ℕ = {1, 2, 3, ...}. R´That does not
change the subset.
It changes the domain from D to N. What operation is „attachment”?

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Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math:
It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
13 Dec 24 * Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)5joes
13 Dec 24 `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)4WM
13 Dec 24  `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)3joes
13 Dec 24   `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)2WM
14 Dec 24    `- Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)1joes

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