Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)

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Sujet : Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)
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Date : 16. Dec 2024, 12:49:00
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Am Mon, 16 Dec 2024 09:50:14 +0100 schrieb WM:
On 15.12.2024 22:13, Richard Damon wrote:
On 12/15/24 1:57 PM, WM wrote:
 
Dark numbers are required to empty ℕ by |ℕ \ {1, 2, 3, ...}| = 0. All
definable numbers fail: ∀n ∈ ℕ_def: |ℕ \ {1, 2, 3, ..., n}| = ℵo.
 
And why do you need to do that?
In order to show the existence of dark numbers.
It just shows the infinity of n. No natural is as large as N.

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Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math:
It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.

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