Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)

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Sujet : Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)
De : richard (at) *nospam* damon-family.org (Richard Damon)
Groupes : sci.math
Date : 17. Dec 2024, 13:34:09
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On 12/17/24 4:13 AM, WM wrote:
On 17.12.2024 00:52, Richard Damon wrote:
On 12/16/24 3:30 AM, WM wrote:
On 15.12.2024 21:21, joes wrote:
 
Therefore we use all [1, n].
Those are all finite.
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All n are finite.
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But N isn't, so the sets [1, n] aren't what the bijection is defined on.
 Every element is the last element of a FISON [1, n]. ℕ is the set of all FISONs. I use all FISONs. ∀n ∈ ℕ: f([1, n]) =< 1/10.
Ever heard of the effect of the universal quantifier?
But your logic can't deal with ALL Fisons.
Note, the mapping isn't in your [1, n] but in N.
Your logic that if it holds for all FISONs, it holds for N, is what shows that 0 == 1, so we see that logic is broken when it is applied to truly infinite things.

 
All intervals do it because there is no n outside of all intervals [1, n]. My proof applies all intervals.
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And all the intervals are finite, and thus not the INFINITE set N, which is where the bijection occurs.
 According to Cantor the "bijection" uses all n and nothing more.
Right, but no FISON uses contains ALL n.

 Regards, WM
 

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15 Dec 24 * Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)44joes
15 Dec16:25 `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)43WM
15 Dec21:21  `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)42joes
16 Dec09:30   `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)41WM
16 Dec12:55    +* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)13joes
16 Dec14:59    i`* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)12WM
16 Dec16:40    i `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)11joes
16 Dec17:49    i  `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)10WM
16 Dec18:25    i   `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)9joes
17 Dec10:05    i    `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)8WM
17 Dec13:34    i     `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)7Richard Damon
17 Dec22:49    i      `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)6WM
18 Dec10:35    i       +* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)4joes
18 Dec20:07    i       i`* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)3WM
18 Dec21:15    i       i `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)2joes
19 Dec15:36    i       i  `- Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)1WM
18 Dec13:23    i       `- Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)1Richard Damon
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17 Dec10:13     `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)25WM
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17 Dec13:34      +* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)3Richard Damon
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18 Dec13:25      i `- Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)1Richard Damon
17 Dec18:07      `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)18joes
17 Dec22:57       `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)17WM
18 Dec13:29        `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)16Richard Damon
18 Dec20:06         `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)15WM
18 Dec21:15          +* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)2joes
19 Dec15:38          i`- Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)1WM
19 Dec04:29          `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)12Richard Damon
19 Dec15:58           `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)11WM
19 Dec22:25            +- Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)1Chris M. Thomasson
20 Dec03:52            `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)9Richard Damon
20 Dec11:13             `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)8WM
20 Dec12:55              `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)7Chris M. Thomasson
20 Dec15:38               `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)6WM
20 Dec21:18                `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)5Chris M. Thomasson
21 Dec04:37                 `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)4Richard Damon
21 Dec10:23                  +* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)2Chris M. Thomasson
21 Dec10:36                  i`- Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)1Moebius
21 Dec18:46                  `- Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)1WM

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