Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)

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Sujet : Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)
De : richard (at) *nospam* damon-family.org (Richard Damon)
Groupes : sci.math
Date : 18. Dec 2024, 13:29:38
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On 12/17/24 4:57 PM, WM wrote:
On 17.12.2024 18:07, joes wrote:
Am Tue, 17 Dec 2024 10:13:48 +0100 schrieb WM:
 
Every element is the last element of a FISON [1, n]. ℕ is the set of all
FISONs.
No, it is the union.
 It is also the set because every FISON can represent one natnumber.
But you don't use them that way, so you don't seem to have that property.
While 3 can be defined as the set {0, 1, 2}, which expands to
{ {}. {{}}. { {}. {{}} } }
When we talk of it as the natural number, it isn't just that set,

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I use all FISONs.
No, you don’t. N is not a FISON.
 It is all FISONs.
No, it is a set of all Natural Numbers.

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All intervals do it because there is no n outside of all intervals [1,
n]. My proof applies all intervals.
And all the intervals are finite, and thus not the INFINITE set N,
which is where the bijection occurs.
According to Cantor the "bijection" uses all n and nothing more.
What else do you think it uses?
 You claimed that he uses more than I do, namely all natural numbers.
Right, you never use ALL the natural numbers, only a finite subset of them.

 Regards, WM
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Date Sujet#  Auteur
15 Dec12:15 * Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)44joes
15 Dec16:25 `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)43WM
15 Dec21:21  `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)42joes
16 Dec09:30   `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)41WM
16 Dec12:55    +* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)13joes
16 Dec14:59    i`* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)12WM
16 Dec16:40    i `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)11joes
16 Dec17:49    i  `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)10WM
16 Dec18:25    i   `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)9joes
17 Dec10:05    i    `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)8WM
17 Dec13:34    i     `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)7Richard Damon
17 Dec22:49    i      `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)6WM
18 Dec10:35    i       +* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)4joes
18 Dec20:07    i       i`* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)3WM
18 Dec21:15    i       i `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)2joes
19 Dec15:36    i       i  `- Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)1WM
18 Dec13:23    i       `- Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)1Richard Damon
17 Dec00:52    `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)27Richard Damon
17 Dec05:32     +- Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)1Chris M. Thomasson
17 Dec10:13     `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)25WM
17 Dec11:07      +* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)3FromTheRafters
17 Dec11:37      i`* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)2WM
17 Dec18:04      i `- Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)1joes
17 Dec13:34      +* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)3Richard Damon
17 Dec22:51      i`* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)2WM
18 Dec13:25      i `- Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)1Richard Damon
17 Dec18:07      `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)18joes
17 Dec22:57       `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)17WM
18 Dec13:29        `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)16Richard Damon
18 Dec20:06         `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)15WM
18 Dec21:15          +* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)2joes
19 Dec15:38          i`- Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)1WM
19 Dec04:29          `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)12Richard Damon
19 Dec15:58           `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)11WM
19 Dec22:25            +- Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)1Chris M. Thomasson
20 Dec03:52            `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)9Richard Damon
20 Dec11:13             `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)8WM
20 Dec12:55              `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)7Chris M. Thomasson
20 Dec15:38               `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)6WM
20 Dec21:18                `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)5Chris M. Thomasson
21 Dec04:37                 `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)4Richard Damon
21 Dec10:23                  +* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)2Chris M. Thomasson
21 Dec10:36                  i`- Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)1Moebius
21 Dec18:46                  `- Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)1WM

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