Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)

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Sujet : Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)
De : chris.m.thomasson.1 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Chris M. Thomasson)
Groupes : sci.math
Date : 19. Dec 2024, 22:25:31
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On 12/19/2024 6:58 AM, WM wrote:
On 19.12.2024 04:29, Richard Damon wrote:
On 12/18/24 2:06 PM, WM wrote:
On 18.12.2024 13:29, Richard Damon wrote:
On 12/17/24 4:57 PM, WM wrote:
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You claimed that he uses more than I do, namely all natural numbers.
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Right, you never use ALL the natural numbers, only a finite subset of them.
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Please give the quote from which you obtain a difference between
"The infinite sequence thus defined has the peculiar property to contain the positive rational numbers completely, and each of them only once at a determined place." [G. Cantor, letter to R. Lipschitz (19 Nov 1883)]
and my "the infinite sequence f(n) = [1, n] contains all natural numbers n completely, and each of them only once at a determined place."
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How is your f(n) an "infinite sequence, since n is a finite number in each instance.
 How is Cantor's sequence infinite since every positive rational number is finite?
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NONE of your f(n) contains *ALL* natural numbers, since no "n" is the highest natural number,
Cantor Pairing does not deal with rationals. It can create a unique pair of unsigned integers from any unsigned integer. Then we can use that unique pair to go back to the original unsigned integer.

 None of Cantor's terms q_n contains all rational numbers, sice no n is the highest natural number.
 
Your problem is you just don't understand what "infinity" is
 Your problem is that you believe to understand it.
 Regards, WM
 

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15 Dec 24 * Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)44joes
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18 Dec13:29        `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)16Richard Damon
18 Dec20:06         `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)15WM
18 Dec21:15          +* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)2joes
19 Dec15:38          i`- Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)1WM
19 Dec04:29          `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)12Richard Damon
19 Dec15:58           `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)11WM
19 Dec22:25            +- Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)1Chris M. Thomasson
20 Dec03:52            `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)9Richard Damon
20 Dec11:13             `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)8WM
20 Dec12:55              `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)7Chris M. Thomasson
20 Dec15:38               `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)6WM
20 Dec21:18                `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)5Chris M. Thomasson
21 Dec04:37                 `* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)4Richard Damon
21 Dec10:23                  +* Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)2Chris M. Thomasson
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21 Dec18:46                  `- Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)1WM

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