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On 05.01.2025 12:28, Alan Mackenzie wrote:The "limit" to the natural numbers is outside of their realm, so to speak... This does NOT imply that there is a largest natural number...
The only people who talk about "potential" and "actual" infinity areAll mathematicians whom you have disqualified above are genuine mathematicians.
non-mathematicians who lack understanding, and pioneer mathematicians
early on in the development of set theory who were still grasping after
precise notions.
What you perhaps could understand is this simple example: As Cantor said actual infinity, for instance omegas and alephs and ℕ are fixed quantities. The set ℕ is invariable. But all finite initial segments of natural numbers FISONs {1, 2, 3, ..., n} cover less than 1 % of ℕ. Proof: {1, 2, 3, ..., 100n} is less than ℕ. That means the set of FISONs will never cover ℕ, nor will its union reach the invariable quantity. The set of FISONs is only potentially infinite, not a fixed quantity but growing over all finite bounds.
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