The current Sputnik Shock (Re: Was Poincare crushed by the New)

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Sujet : The current Sputnik Shock (Re: Was Poincare crushed by the New)
De : janburse (at) *nospam* fastmail.fm (Mild Shock)
Groupes : sci.math
Date : 06. Jan 2025, 10:07:21
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Hi,
The stance of LLMs towards ontology is a little
special. Asking OpenAI it tells me that LLMs can
behave as follows:
- Interpret Ontologies: Given descriptions or
   structured data from ontologies, they can
   understand and process relationships,
   classes, and properties.
- Generate Ontology Components: They can help draft
   classes, properties, or rules for ontologies when
   provided with a domain description or examples.
- Explain Ontologies: They can interpret and explain
   the structure and intent of an ontology for end-users.
I know at least of one project that tries to tap into
that, especially inputing a natural language text and
asking description components. The expected problems
are hallucination, informality and rigidity.
But since our whole education system is mainly based
on NEW Logic and not OLD Logic, which is somehow
tacitly assumed. And since LLMs have quite some grass
root dynamics, with YouTube videos platforms having
replaced the academic discussion forums and are now
influencing the terminology in the domain. The whole
matter feels like a bad joke, like waking up in a
Keeping Up with the Kardashians comedy.
Just like here:
A New Lexicon and Its Implications
https://www.computer.org/csdl/magazine/it/2024/05/10754993/21THeGJDXUI
Bye
A New Lexicon and Its Implications
https://www.computer.org/csdl/magazine/it/2024/05/10754993/21THeGJDXUI
FIGURE 5. Partial list of emergent generative AI terminology.
Mild Shock schrieb:
Poincare had quite some problems with the
formal revolution that took place as well
in the last 100 or more years, starting with
 things like naive set theory and its antinomies,
ending with computer formalized proofs of the Keppler
packing nowadays. He wrote a lengthy book:
 Science and method
by Poincaré, Henri, 1854-1912
https://archive.org/details/sciencemethod00poinuoft/page/n3/mode/2up
 His struggle starts at page 160, The New Logics.
Similar Einstein was New Mechanics for him.
Mostlikely Poincaré nowadays would be a form of
 Sabine Hossenfelder with 100 YouTube videos and
possibly many followers. Poincaré faced the
destiny of any old fart that became irrelevant
 over the time and turned into a commentator.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
4 Jan 25 * Was Poincare crushed by the New5Mild Shock
4 Jan 25 +* Re: Was Poincare crushed by the New2Mild Shock
4 Jan 25 i`- Re: Was Poincare crushed by the New1Mild Shock
6 Jan 25 +- NEW Logic versus OLD Logic (Re: Was Poincare crushed by the New)1Mild Shock
6 Jan 25 `- The current Sputnik Shock (Re: Was Poincare crushed by the New)1Mild Shock

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