Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)

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Sujet : Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)
De : FTR (at) *nospam* nomail.afraid.org (FromTheRafters)
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Date : 07. Jan 2025, 14:49:21
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WM was thinking very hard :
On 07.01.2025 02:36, Ross Finlayson wrote:
On 01/06/2025 02:43 PM, Jim Burns wrote:
>
It would be great if you (WM) did NOT
find lemma 1 weird,
but it is what it is.
>
It is not weird. But your conclusions are weird.
>
The inductive set being covered by
initial segments is an _axiom_ of ZF.
>
And the existence of the set ℕ is also an axiom of ZF.
Which axiom?

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27 Nov 24 * Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)1047WM
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