Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)

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Sujet : Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)
De : wolfgang.mueckenheim (at) *nospam* tha.de (WM)
Groupes : sci.math
Date : 13. Jan 2025, 18:29:48
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On 13.01.2025 18:06, Jim Burns wrote:
On 1/13/2025 7:48 AM, WM wrote:
On 13.01.2025 05:51, Moebius wrote:
 
Es gilt dann also |ℕ|/n = |ℕ|.
>
Wrong. |ℕ| is a fixed number.
 By 'fixed', you mean that #ℕ > #(ℕ\{0})
 However,
ℕ is the set of all 'fixed' (finite) ordinals.
 
Which is ivariable.

⎛ Assume ℕ is 'fixed'.
⎜
⎜ A 'fixed' ordinal ⟦0,𝔑⦆ the size of ℕ exists.
|ℕ| = ω-1.
⎜ #⟦0,𝔑⦆ = #ℕ
⎜
⎜ ⟦0,𝔑+1⦆ is 'fixed', too.
ω

⎜ ⟦0,𝔑+1⦆ ⊆ ℕ
No.

Therefore,
ℕ is not 'fixed'.
If it were not, then it would not be a set.
Regards, WM

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