Sujet : Re: Forgotten to answer?
De : wolfgang.mueckenheim (at) *nospam* tha.de (WM)
Groupes : sci.mathDate : 26. Jan 2025, 10:56:33
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On 26.01.2025 10:08, FromTheRafters wrote:
WM wrote :
On 25.01.2025 18:03, FromTheRafters wrote:
WM pretended :
On 22.01.2025 19:01, Python wrote:
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> If you have three coins of 2 euros not a single one is "necessary" to
pay a 3 euros drink
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This failing analogy has been repeated again an again, first by Rennenkampff, because their authors do not understand the principle: Cantor's theorem concerns the set of indices or ordinal numbers, not a set of sets.
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Then how are these 'Cantor's Theorem' ordinals contructed?
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That can be done in an arbitrary way.
Arbitrarily constructed ordinals? Tell me more!
Which of {a, b}, {b, c}, {c, a} are required for the union {a, b, c}?
Indexing: 1. {a, b}, 2. {b, c}, 3. {c, a}.
The first set is not required because
{a, b, c} = {a, b} U {b, c} U {c, a} = {b, c} U {c, a}.
The second set is the first required one because
{a, b, c} = {b, c} U {c, a} =/= {c, a}.
Therefore Cantors's theorem supplies the set of ordinals {2, 3}.
By the way, every other choice of indices would yield the same Cantor-set {2, 3}.
Regards, WM