Re: The set of necessary FISONs

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Sujet : Re: The set of necessary FISONs
De : FTR (at) *nospam* nomail.afraid.org (FromTheRafters)
Groupes : sci.math
Date : 10. Feb 2025, 17:21:09
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on 2/10/2025, WM supposed :
On 10.02.2025 13:37, Richard Damon wrote:
On 2/10/25 4:56 AM, WM wrote:
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The set of useless FISONs is inductive and therefore infinite. No FISON can change the assumption U(A(n)) = ℕ. Therefore every FISON can be omitted. ==> { } = ℕ.
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Which means that each element is not needed, but doesn't prove that you can't get the answer from a union of an infinite set of them.
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Does Zermelo define a set by induction or only its elements?
https://mathresearch.utsa.edu/wiki/index.php?title=Natural_Numbers:Postulates#Zermelo_ordinals

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