Sujet : Re: The non-existence of "dark numbers"
De : wolfgang.mueckenheim (at) *nospam* tha.de (WM)
Groupes : sci.mathDate : 18. Mar 2025, 10:50:26
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On 18.03.2025 10:32, FromTheRafters wrote:
WM submitted this idea :
On 17.03.2025 20:57, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 3/17/2025 12:35 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 3/16/2025 10:10 PM, WM wrote:
On 17.03.2025 00:19, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 3/16/2025 12:00 PM, WM wrote:
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No. The definable natural numbers strive to the smallest infinite number ω. But they are never there.
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What is wrong with you? N is all the natural numbers. Saying all does not mean finite... Name a natural number that cannot be defined?
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The number next to ω cannot be defined.
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Any natural number can be defined...
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ω is outside of the realm of natural numbers...
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But not the natural number next to it.
There isn't one. It is the ordered set of natural numbers.
The set is ordered and if it is actually infinite, then all its elements are there and do not appear from nothing but then it has a greatest element.
Regards, WM
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12 Mar 25 |       Re: The non-existence of "dark numbers" | 413 | | WM |
12 Mar 25 |        Re: The non-existence of "dark numbers" | 412 | | Alan Mackenzie |
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13 Mar 25 |           Re: The non-existence of "dark numbers" | 397 | | WM |
13 Mar 25 |            Re: The non-existence of "dark numbers" | 3 | | joes |
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14 Mar 25 |                Re: The non-existence of "dark numbers" | 5 | | FromTheRafters |
14 Mar 25 |                 Re: The non-existence of "dark numbers" | 4 | | WM |
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15 Mar 25 |                   Re: The non-existence of "dark numbers" | 1 | | WM |
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17 Mar 25 |                              Re: The non-existence of "dark numbers" | 262 | | Jim Burns |
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18 Mar 25 |                                     Re: The non-existence of "dark numbers" | 255 | | WM |
19 Mar 25 |                                      Re: The non-existence of "dark numbers" | 254 | | Jim Burns |
19 Mar 25 |                                       Re: The non-existence of "dark numbers" | 253 | | WM |
19 Mar 25 |                                        Re: The non-existence of "dark numbers" | 252 | | Jim Burns |
20 Mar 25 |                                         Re: The non-existence of "dark numbers" | 251 | | WM |
20 Mar 25 |                                          Re: The non-existence of "dark numbers" | 250 | | Jim Burns |
20 Mar 25 |                                           Re: The non-existence of "dark numbers" | 249 | | WM |
20 Mar 25 |                                            Re: The non-existence of "dark numbers" | 248 | | Jim Burns |
21 Mar 25 |                                             Re: The non-existence of "dark numbers" | 247 | | WM |
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22 Mar 25 |                                                      Re: The reality of sets, on a scale of 1 to 10 | 28 | | Moebius |
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22 Mar 25 |                                                        Re: The reality of sets, on a scale of 1 to 10 | 1 | | Moebius |
23 Mar 25 |                                                       Re: The reality of sets, on a scale of 1 to 10 | 25 | | Ross Finlayson |
23 Mar 25 |                                                        Re: The reality of sets, on a scale of 1 to 10 | 24 | | Jim Burns |
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27 Mar 25 |                                                             Re: The reality of sets, on a scale of 1 to 10 (theory of theories) | 5 | | Jim Burns |
27 Mar 25 |                                                              Re: The reality of sets, on a scale of 1 to 10 (theory of theories) | 4 | | FromTheRafters |
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27 Mar 25 |                                                               Re: The reality of sets, on a scale of 1 to 10 (theory of theories) | 2 | | Ross Finlayson |
27 Mar 25 |                                                                Re: The reality of sets, on a scale of 1 to 10 (theory of theories) | 1 | | Ross Finlayson |
24 Mar 25 |                                                          Re: The reality of sets, on a scale of 1 to 10 (theory of theories) | 3 | | Jim Burns |
22 Mar 25 |                                                     Re: The reality of sets, on a scale of 1 to 10 | 1 | | WM |
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21 Mar 25 |                                                Re: The non-existence of "dark numbers" | 3 | | FromTheRafters |
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16 Mar 25 |                        Re: The non-existence of "dark numbers" | 1 | | joes |
16 Mar 25 |                      Re: The non-existence of "dark numbers" | 4 | | joes |
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15 Mar 25 |                  Re: The non-existence of "dark numbers" | 7 | | joes |
14 Mar 25 |                Re: The non-existence of "dark numbers" | 1 | | joes |
14 Mar 25 |              Re: The non-existence of "dark numbers" | 1 | | joes |
14 Mar 25 |           Re: The non-existence of "dark numbers" | 1 | | Chris M. Thomasson |
13 Mar 25 |          Re: The non-existence of "dark numbers" | 1 | | joes |
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