Re: Approximately 300,000 km/s With Respect To What?

On 2024-07-16 07:26:07 +0000, Thomas Heger said:

Am Montag000015, 15.07.2024 um 11:05 schrieb Mikko:

On 2024-07-15 06:26:42 +0000, Thomas Heger said:
 

Am Sonntag000014, 14.07.2024 um 12:19 schrieb Mikko:

On 2024-07-13 08:08:44 +0000, Thomas Heger said:
 

Am Freitag000012, 12.07.2024 um 11:26 schrieb Mikko:

On 2024-07-11 19:58:02 +0000, amirjf nin said:
 

Approximately 300,000 km/s with respect to what?

 Whenever the speec of something is measured it is measured with respect
to someting else. The report should make clear what is the reference that
is considered stationary. Usually it is the instruments used in the
measurement, and usually but not always they are at rest with restpect to
Earth surface at the place of the measurement.
 

 'Stationary' can be understood as 'not moving' and that as 'having
 velocity zero'.

 Yes, that is what the word means.
 

But velocity would require a reference point, in respect to which the object does not move.

 That gives you a revefernce point: the object does not move in respect to
itself.
 

 Actually I have used this setting in my 'book' and declared, that all observers regard themselves as non-moving.

 That is possible but not always the best idea. In the real world an observer
often considers oneself as moving and someting else as stationary. Often
it is better to choose samething inertial for "statinary" when the observer
is not inertial.
 

Sure, but 'non-inertial observers' where not included in SRT.

Not intentionally but SRT can be used for calculations of what a non-inertial
observer would see.

IOW: there is no acceleration in SRT, but only streigth steady movement in a force free space.

There is. Acclerated motions can be described and analyzed with SRT. Electric
and magnetic fields discussed in "On the Electrodynamics of Moving Bodies" are
meaningful only by their affect on the acceleration of charged bodies.

The very word 'acceleration' was used by Einstein in 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' only in connection with the electron and not in any other relation.

Because what at the time were called "electrons" were only bodies to which
electrodynamics is obviously relevant. It was even speculated that all matter
migh be only electrons (both positively and negatively charged so they would
stick together).
--
Mikko