Re: Why a time of the real world must be galilean

W dniu 11.12.2024 o 22:51, Python pisze:

Le 11/12/2024 à 22:18, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :

W dniu 11.12.2024 o 21:56, Python pisze:

Le 11/12/2024 à 21:29, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :

W dniu 11.12.2024 o 20:17, Python pisze:

Le 11/12/2024 à 08:17, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :

W dniu 10.12.2024 o 20:45, Python pisze:

Le 10/12/2024 à 20:20, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :

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How do you practically check your "t = t'" equations for clocks standing next to each other?

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I read the numbers they display and I compare them.

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Good.
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Then for distant mutually at rest clocks with no

gravity involved?

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I don't.

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Sad. You don't. You can't. We can.

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No you can't either. Sorry, There is a small technical detail: those
"distant clocks" are not moving wrt each
other.
How do you ensure that? By assuming the
condition a priori;and you can do it because
you're only applying your procedure
in your gedanken. Am I incorrect ?

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You are. I put two clocks at the extremity of a rod.

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Yeah, sure - "distant" clocks  at the
extremity of the rod - very practical
indeed, isn't it?
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  This is quite

reasonable to assume they are at rest wrt to each other, isn't it?

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No. Take 2 bodies - one orbitting the other.
Join them with a rod, do you secure their relative
immobility ? Yeah, you imagined and insisted
Gdańsk and Warsaw aren't moving wrt each other. You're
such an idiot.

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What is the relative speed between Gdansk and Warsaw then?

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Would have to calculate.

 LOL!!!

OK, if you ask.
 From wiki - Gdańsk is 54°20′51″N 18°38′43″E,
Warsaw is 52°13′56″N 21°00′30″E.
Assuming the average Earth radius  6368km, Gdańsk
is 3713.3km distant from Earth axis, Warsaw is
3901.5km. That gives 972.1km/h and 1021.4km/h
of linear speed. The difference is 49.3km/h.
Good enough for you as the first estimation,
poor stinker?
Sure, the velocities are not quite parallel;
the final result will be slightly bigger.

 

You're only believing [into] a great
practical procedure - because your is pumping you with gedanken fairy
tales where it works fine.

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Nope. If such a procedure would fail it could be checked.

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How could it fail if you  have never used it.
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No magic, and if gravity could not be ignored in a given practical setup

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So, where, precisely, was your [method]
applied. In practice.

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I asked for yours

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And I asked where, precisely, was your idiocy
applied. In practice.
No answer? Of course,

 Many labs where distant events are involved and high time resolution is > needed, inside CERN detectors for instance.

The source?