Re: Argument with ChatGPT about that Pound-Rebka experiment was A FRAUD.

On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 16:50:58 +0000, rhertz wrote:

Some things that I forgot to post:
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1) In the 1959 paper, as well as in the one from 1965, he ADMITTEDLY did
the following:
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- Added, after averaging, two counters for the left side of the curve.
- Also added, after averaging, the other two counts for the right side.
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That's why his published averages (14) are all NEGATIVES.
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2) As it can be seen in the photo attached in the post above this one,
he focused ONLY in obtaining a difference close to 2gh/c^2.
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The photo shows what seems to be total counts involved on each
calculation, for which he also scrambled around numbers gathered for
positions of the emitter down and up.
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The table with the original measurements WAS NEVER PUBLISHED, which made
it IMPOSSIBLE for anyone else TO VERIFY the dark calculations and
manipulations made over the entire dataset.
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3) Both papers (1960 and 1965) are written in a dark, confusing
language, with lengthy explanations about materials, setups for the
experiments AND LOT OF EXCUSES for things that he didn't include in the
calculations, like:
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- Mechanical vibrations upon the building, which translated into ERRORS
in the
  functioning of the emitter.
- Compton scattering of gamma rays along the 22.5 meters path, which
were
  redshifted due to this.
- Doubts about WHICH HYPERFINE PEAK he was measuring (there are six).
- The effects caused by gamma rays with recoil shift that were counted.
- The effects of additional X-rays and 122 KeV gamma rays that were
COUNTED.
- Non-linearities in the motion of the mechanical piston in 1960, which
were
  tried to be partially corrected in 1965.
- Differences in temperatures in the rooms where emitter and absorber
were
  located (tried to fix in 1965 with air conditioners, which finally
couldn't
  be used due to induced mechanical vibrations).
- Mismatch between emitter and absorber samples, which SHOULD HAVE BEEN
EXACTLY+
  EQUAL.

I accidentally posted the above, which was unfinished.
- THREE MAJOR QUANTUM EFFECTS, which are of common knowledge today:
   -Electric Monopole Interaction
   —Electric Quadrupole Interaction
   —Magnetic Dipole Interaction
- Overload on the discriminators and proportional counters due to their
LOW
  BANDWIDTH (long temporal shaping of pulses after the photomultiplier)
and
  an excessive flux of photons over the absorber.
  A lot of incidences post-absorber caused that detected gamma photons
were
  occurring at the same time, giving WRONG LECTURES in the counters due
to
  wrong discrimination of the energy of detected photons.
I could follow this for much longer, but I left the job for anyone
wanting to
fact-check the two papers (1960 and 1965):
http://webs.ftmc.uam.es/juancarlos.cuevas/Teaching/Pound-Rebka-PRL1960.pdf
http://rsefalicante.umh.es/TemasRelatGeneral/Documentos/Articulo_Pound_Snider.pdf
You can observe how dark, complex and also evasive wording was used by
Pound in both papers. Hiding the truth behind a wall of words.