Re: Humans can't observe time. Even less, the pass of time. Science is an illusion.

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Sujet : Re: Humans can't observe time. Even less, the pass of time. Science is an illusion.
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Date : 28. Apr 2025, 18:54:28
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On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 16:24:56 +0000, rhertz wrote:
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I repeat:
Repeating falsehoods does not make them true.

Humans have no abilities to OBSERVE the pass of time (or its flow, which
is the same.
This is even too much for Maciej to swallow :-))

In the case of spatial dimensions (xyz), we have such sensorial
capabilities.
>
But in the case of TIME, which is a human construct, our brain CAN'T
REGISTER TIME (at any given instance)
We have no instantaneous "sensorial" capabilities since all
observations are in the past.  Strange that some of us know
this but others do not.

NOR IT CAN OBSERVE HOW TIME FLOWS,
even looking themselves in a mirror.
Mirrors have nothing to do with it.  All animals use their brains
to remember the past.  Some humans forget that.

The cognitive capabilities to register time that we might have
are ILLUSIONS that rapidly FADE AWAY.
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it,"
-- George Santayana.
"Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it".
--  Winston Churchill

Our brain can't process such information and, even less, REGISTER
(through observations) how time flows within and around us, even
when we chose a TICK large enough (say, 1 second lapse per obser-
vation). We don't understand what HAPPENS BECAUSE EVERY CHANGE
AROUND US is in the past, and we CAN'T PROCESS THE THREADS OF
PAST OBSERVATIONS as it if was a movie played in reverse,
choosing intervals at will.
This says more about Hertz than the rest of the inhabitants of this
planet.

So, time IS AN ILLUSION, as well as any result that we might
observe in a graph f(t). WE CAN'T REPRODUCE WHAT THE GRAPHIC
CONTAINS,
Apparently, Hertz has never heard of photography.  Nor has he
ever taken a photograph of an oscilloscope trace back in the
old days (now you don't even need a camera, you just push a
button).
He doesn't understand that scientists DO reproduce phenomena to
prove that they're repeatable, not ephemeral, not a mistake, and
they have recordings to show it when memory is no longer green.

SO WE CHOOSE TO BELIEVE IT'S TRUE.
Scientist don't believe a phenomenon the first time it happens,
they repeat it, they report it to others who also repeat it.
After  many have repeated it, THAT'S when belief becomes general.
Then, the only ones who repeat it are in school laboratories,
so it's repeated again and again and again and ....
But seminal experiences seldom are forgotten.  I have a cat that
liked to jump the fence when she was a kitten, then strolled
around and jumped into someone else's yard and couldn't figure
out why she wasn't home.  I installed an electric fence and she
jumped the fence only ONCE after that.  She landed on the side-
walk, ran to the alley, ran down the alley to my driveway, ran
up to the garage, jumped over the gate and back into the yard.
She has NEVER tried to reproduce THAT!  :-))
I guess some memories, even in cats, DON'T fade away.

Nobody, here or anywhere, can contradict THIS FACT.
Hertz is wrong: I just did.

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