Re: MICROTUBULES CAUSE LIFE AFTER DEATH

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Sujet : Re: MICROTUBULES CAUSE LIFE AFTER DEATH
De : ghammond928 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (George Hammond)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 26. Apr 2025, 04:02:43
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On 4/25/2025 4:04 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
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[STARMAKER]
Key Logical Error: Mistaking Speed for Survival
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Claim made:
Because microtubules operate at a speed 10-trillion times faster than
neuron firing, they can “play back” a full year-long afterlife dream
in just one microsecond, before the brain is destroyed.
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BUT:
Realistically, a brain hit by lightning or a bomb doesn’t gently wait
one microsecond and then die. It's an instantaneous structural failure
— it’s gone before that hypothetical playback can even begin.
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[HAMMOND] MS Phyusics
     Hey STARMAKER, there is no such thing as an "instantaneous failure".
Here are the actual SPEEDS of Bombs, Bullets, Lightning etc. As you can
see they all have FINITE MEASURABLE SPEEDS:
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    Speed of Death                   Real Time            Afterlifef Time
Rifle bullet=5,000 ft/sec         200 micsec               184 years
TNT explosion=22,500 ft/sec       44.4 micsec              40.9 years
Lightning bolt=100 ft/mics        .01 micsec               3.36 days
A Bomb=speed of light=1-ft/ns     1 nanosec                8.07 hours
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
(note that the "rise-time" of a nuclear explosion may be microseconds)
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   Notice that none of these speeds are "instantaneous"–in fact there is
no such thing as an "instantaneous brain destruction".  Even if you
duct taped your head to an Atomic Bomb –  you will still spend one day
(8.07 hours) in Heaven!  Even for a 2000 pound TNT bomb, the Afterlife
could last as long as 40.9 years !  Admittedly – I'm surprised to find out that a (one in 1 million chance) of getting hit directly in the
head by a super gigantic Lightning Bolt could reduce the Afterlife to 3.36 days but that would be a highly exceptional event !  It is clear
to me that in 99.9% of human death cases, the persons Afterlife is g
oing to be MORE than one year!
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[STARMAKER]
?? Additional Scientific Issues:
Hameroff and Penrose's theories (Orch-OR) are still highly speculative
and not widely accepted in neuroscience. They propose that
consciousness arises from quantum effects in microtubules—but this is
not proven.
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[HAMMOND] MS Physics
     My theory doesn't say anything about "consciousness"! I merely
assume, is anyone would, that the Afterlife Dream content of the
Microtubule System records consciousness like any other recording
device, irregardless of the "cause" of consciousness!
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[STARMAKER]
Ultraviolet light transmission in microtubules is not an established
scientific fact. There's no solid evidence for this mechanism acting
as a memory retrieval or consciousness system.
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[HAMMOND] MS Physics
     I am not concerned with the "proof" of Life after Death. I am only
concerned with "knowing" what the scientific probability of it's
existence most likely is ?
     Meanwhile Jibu et al in Japan has written a now famous and widely
disseminated paper describing ultraviolet light traveling through water
filled microtubules.  And Craddick/Hameroff have published another
famous paper showing how information is molecularly stored in the
walls of the microtubules (using CAMK2 molecules).  This is
SUFFICIENT for me to judge the likelihood of these processes taking
place.
[STARMAKER]
? What’s a fair way to phrase this idea?
? Bottom Line:
Main error: Speed doesn’t matter if the hardware (brain) is instantly
destroyed.
[HAMMOND MS] physics
    WRONG--- it is scientifically impossible for a thing to be "instantly
destroyed".  Even sitting on atomic bomb will not destroy you
"instantly" when it goes off--- fact is, that the "rise time" of the
detonation is in the microsecond region, allowing even this extreme
circumstance for a year long Afterlife to prevail!
[STARMAKER]
Secondary error: Treating unproven theories as facts.
[HAMMOND] MS Physics
     I'm well aware of the certainty and uncertainty of the
Hameroff/Penrose microtubule research – and at the present moment,
I think the "probability" of "Life after Death" exceeds 1 in 3 !
George Hammond, MS physics, Hyannis MA USA 4/24/25

Date Sujet#  Auteur
25 Apr 25 * MICROTUBULES CAUSE LIFE AFTER DEATH6George Hammond
26 Apr 25 `* Re: MICROTUBULES CAUSE LIFE AFTER DEATH5George Hammond
26 Apr 25  `* Re: MICROTUBULES CAUSE LIFE AFTER DEATH4Margarito Barabashev
27 Apr 25   +* Re: MICROTUBULES CAUSE LIFE AFTER DEATH2George Hammond
27 Apr 25   i`- Re: MICROTUBULES CAUSE LIFE AFTER DEATH1Jarvis Timerbulatov
27 Apr 25   `- Re: MICROTUBULES CAUSE LIFE AFTER DEATH1Physfitfreak

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