Re: The problem of relativistic synchronisation

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Sujet : Re: The problem of relativistic synchronisation
De : r.hachel (at) *nospam* wanadou.fr (Richard Hachel)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 04. Sep 2024, 02:32:34
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Le 03/09/2024 à 17:20, "Paul.B.Andersen" a écrit :
Den 03.09.2024 12:03, skrev Richard Hachel:
 We have:
 tA(e1) = 0
tA'(e1)= 0
tA(e2) = 0.75 s
 OK.

And what's missing:
tA'(e2) = 2.25
 
 This is nonsense, and demonstrates that you
don't know what an event is.
e2 is the event that clock A and clock B' are adjacent
   tA'(e2) is meaningless.
It is obvious that tA'(e2) has a meaning for A'.
It is the time at which in his frame of reference (A'), the event E2 exists.
Paul, Paul, you can't say it's meaningless. A little more consideration for the other posters, and please a little more practical intelligence: there is indeed a moment, where, for A, the event e2 exists in his frame of reference, and if A' was synchronized at the start, there will be a time, and only one time of e2 that will be written on his watch.
We can easily, if we correctly master the notion of relativistic simultaneity and the notions of relative chronotropies,
reveal what this time written on the clock A' thus synchronized during e1 will be: tA'(e1)=0.
I beg you not to say that it is absurd or meaningless.
How to proceed?
We KNOW that the travel time of A in A'B' will be equal to the distance A'B' in R' divided by the apparent escape velocity of an object moving at v=0.8c.
This is unavoidable and it is mathematical.
Let tA'(e2)=tA'(e1)+(A'B'/Vapp')
Let tA'(e2)= 0 + 3.10^8/(4/9)c
tA'(2)=2.25 sec
Attention, je parle de l'heure exacte où A' perçoit réellement e2 en direct-live, et qui représente l'heure réelle des choses. Si l'on veut juger, et compter en fonction d'une synchronisation abstraite, basée sur "la vitesse transversale de le lumière", il faut ôter une seconde d'anisochrnie entre A' et B'. Ce qui donne un temps supposé (mais faux) de 1.25 sec. <http://nemoweb.net/jntp?FUkaOI4ar_TcsN7KN74WFA8f3Yw@jntp/Data.Media:2>
Please confirm that you have understood and that you validate, which will allow us to go further and explain all the predictive values ​​that I have already given, but without explaining yet.
R.H.
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