Sujet : Re: No evidence
De : r.hachel (at) *nospam* liscati.fr.invalid (Richard Hachel)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativityDate : 17. Sep 2024, 16:16:06
Autres entêtes
Organisation : Nemoweb
Message-ID : <JgwfTY5zdr-R7hBBRn-JmVc0SDc@jntp>
References : 1 2 3 4 5 6
User-Agent : Nemo/1.0
Le 17/09/2024 à 08:00, Mikko a écrit :
On 2024-09-15 21:27:28 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen said:
Mikko: Then relativity has two types of time contraction. One due to
gravity and the other due to relative motion as in the H&K they have
time dilate in one direction and contract in the other.
Both theories have time dilation and contraction for moving clocks,
depending on how clocks are synchronized and compared. General
Relativity has in addition effects from gravity.
I do not share this point of view.
It is already said, wrongly in my opinion, that we must separate the notion of internal chornotropy of watches from the longitudinal Doppler effect.
For me, this is already excessive.
And then we say: "Let's add general relativity effects due to the presence of masses".
On this ground, I have even more difficulty following the ramblings of scientists.
I am not saying that there are no effects, nor that the effects are not measurable.
I am simply wondering if all this, from A to Z, is not just simple relativistic effects that could be considered pure native SR.
R.H.