Re: Descartes; Cogito, ergo sum. Any AI and Paul Andersen: I don't think, so?

Le 28/04/2025 à 08:28, Maciej Woźniak a écrit :

On 4/28/2025 2:09 AM, rhertz wrote:
 > "I think, therefore I am" ("Cogito, ergo sum" in Latin) is a
 > foundational
 > philosophical statement by René Descartes, asserting that the act of
 > thinking
 > itself proves the existence of the thinker. Descartes used it as the
 > basis
 > for his philosophy, arguing that even if everything else could be
 > doubted,
 > the fact that one is doubting proves their existence.
 Existence i.e. - what?
Something exists when we apply the word
"exist" to it. That's all.
   >
 > Ask any AI engine this question: Do you think? And all of them will
 > respond that they don't.
 Maybe they're mistaken?
  > That everything they write is based on
 > algorithms over existing knowledge
 Most humans manage no better.
   >
 > It applies equally to Paul Andersen. He shows off about that he thinks
 > and had deep consciousness, but he is lying. He's a relativistic PARROT,
 > and I can't find ANY difference between him and a relativistically
 > biased AI engine.
 AI doesn't insult, AFAIK.
   > I wonder if Paul EXISTS
 No you don't.

Descartes's opening sentences are magnificent and very well written.
Then he goes completely off the rails with his "evil genius who deceives us." He manages to twist idealist ideology (he would be violently criticized by Blaise Pascal and Georges Berkeley) with a grotesque sleight of hand that contrasts with the quality of the beginning of his exposition. From then on, everything descends into horror. His text no longer has any philosophical or theological interest. He defends the idea of ​​a God, but a phony God, who gives the world a materialistic slap and thus lets it spin without him.
R.H.