Re: Humans can't observe time. Even less, the pass of time. Science is an illusion.

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Date : 24. Apr 2025, 23:13:57
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On Thu, 24 Apr 2025 8:21:30 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:
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Den 23.04.2025 16:51, skrev rhertz:
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No humans have been able to observe time or register the pass of time.
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Time is an illusion, it doesn't exist. Yet, science depends on almost
exclusively time as a dimension. Like in GR spacetime, claiming time
as
the fourth dimension is beyond stupid. Science relies on the
mathematical construct of the flow of time, so theories can go beyond
a
specific observation in a given instance.
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If humans CAN'T OBSERVE OR FEEL TIME, which is the actual value of the
use of time as a fundamental variable?
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What Richard Hertz can feel or not can feel is irrelevant to physics.
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In physics "time" is a well defined, measurable entity.
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https://paulba.no/pdf/Clock_rate.pdf
Just because we can measure it doesn't mean we understand it.
And when we measure it, and different observers disagree with
our measurement, and relativity "explains" the disagreement,
might not really bring us closer to understanding it.
I attended a lecture many years ago where it was explained that
each of the four dimensions were really identical and we were
always moving at the speed of light - along one of them.  That
one was our time dimension.  That seemed to be very satisfying
at the time.  This would mean that there is a basic symmetry
between time and space.
More recently, some cracks in that view have appeared due to
quantum mechanics.  Vaccaro has published a couple of papers
about "Quantum asymmetry between time and space," (2016)
arXiv:1502.04012.
One idea is that time reversal would be a tough problem for
causality.

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