Re: the notion of counter-intuitiveness in relativistic physics

On 2024-08-10 16:32:03 +0000, Python said:

Le 10/08/2024 à 18:26, Richard Hachel a écrit :

Le 10/08/2024 à 18:14, Python a écrit :

Le 10/08/2024 à 18:09, gharnagel a écrit :

On Sat, 10 Aug 2024 15:29:23 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:

 W dniu 10.08.2024 o 15:02, gharnagel pisze:

 At first, Einstein was ignored, and it took quite a while for
the PTB to come around.  But it didn't happen until experimental
evidence prevailed.

 Only such an idiot believe these nonsensical
ideological lies, Harrie, and the mumble of
the idiot was not even consistent.

 Wozzie has told so many lies, he can't discern truth from his
outrageous fantasies :-))

 It is actually not a lie if he really believes his fallacious claims
to be true.
 IMHO he is demented and dumb enough to actually believe his unsound
"arguments".

 Ah, te voilà, toi?
 Je te croyais disparu sous la claque que tu t'es prise, et qui portait sur Nostradamus.
 Je t'ai demandé d'expliquer le quatrain (ce que j'ai fait, et qui n'a rien à voir avec tes conneries de Louis XIV) et de me montrer si, avec tes immenses talents d'historiens ou de critique, tu pouvais me prouver que cela avait été écris avant 1660.
Magnes toi un peu les couilles, au lieu de faire le con sur usenet.

 [for non French-speaking readers: M.D. Richard "Hachel" Lengrand is
babbling some unclear claims about Nostradamus' "predictions" here]

Most of Nostradamus's "predictions" are so vague and unclesr that you can interpret them any way you like. However, there is one that stands out:
L'an mil neuf cens nonante neuf sept mois
Du ciel viendra un grand Roy d'effrayeur
Ressusciter le grand Roy d'Angolmois
Avant après Mars règner par bonheur.
Lines 2 to 4 are as unclear as everything else that Nostradamus wrote, but line 1 is interesting, as it gives a very precise date, the 7th month of 1999, far in the future for Nostradamus, but fairly recent for us. What could it refer to? For the simple-minded  fantasists he could be predicting the death of Hassan 2, King of Morocco, but if you ask what event of July 1999 could Nostradamus possibly have predicted, the only rational answer is the eclipse of the sun on 11th August 1999. In his time there was enough astronomical knowledge and methods of calculation to predict an eclipse in 1999. Before you object that August is not the 7th month, bear in mind that the Gregorian calendar was introduced some time after Nostradamus.
Drifting even further from the topic, today "nonante" is regarded as typical of Belgian French, but apparently it was more widely used in Nostradamus's time.

 I don't give a sh*t on this new stupid hobby of yours. I would,
anyway, be concerned if I lived in Saint-Izan-de-Soudiac and a
local country Doctor was fond of this kind of demented nonsense.

--
Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 37 years; mainly in England until 1987.