Sujet : Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.
De : ttt_heg (at) *nospam* web.de (Thomas Heger)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativityDate : 14. Sep 2024, 07:37:08
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Am Freitag000013, 13.09.2024 um 10:38 schrieb Maciej Wozniak:
W dniu 13.09.2024 o 09:37, Thomas Heger pisze:
Am Samstag000007, 07.09.2024 um 09:49 schrieb Maciej Wozniak:
W dniu 07.09.2024 o 09:26, Thomas Heger pisze:
Am Freitag000006, 06.09.2024 um 12:22 schrieb Maciej Wozniak:
W dniu 06.09.2024 o 12:16, Thomas Heger pisze:
Am Donnerstag000005, 05.09.2024 um 10:26 schrieb Maciej Wozniak:
W dniu 05.09.2024 o 08:57, Thomas Heger pisze:
Am Mittwoch000004, 04.09.2024 um 23:10 schrieb Python:
Le 04/09/2024 à 23:03, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
W dniu 04.09.2024 o 21:30, Python pisze:
Le 04/09/2024 à 20:21, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
W dniu 04.09.2024 o 19:48, gharnagel pisze:
On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 13:09:57 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
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Common sense was warning your idiot guru.
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St. John the Divine was warning Warped Wozniak, the
bald-faced liar:
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St John (fuck his absurd threats anyway) won't
help, t'=t in GPS, at least if by t, t' we
mean clock indications.
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How such t and t' are clock indications.
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According to the own definition of
your [Einstein] - time is "what clocks
indicate",
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Don't be lazy, Wozniak, read! "time is "what clocks indicate" is
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This is wrong!
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Time does not depend on clocks, because clocks are manmade artifacts.
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Are they? And so is time, except that it is
an abstract.
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Wrist-watches, for instance, are tiny machines.
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But those machines are made by human beings.
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It would make no sense at all to assume, that nature would produce wrist-watches or cares, whether or not humans do.
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Therefore time is not related to watches!
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Nope. Therefore time is not related to nature.
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Physics is a natural science.
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There is nothing natural in physics or any
other domain of science. And time is not a
natural entity - neither UTimeC, nor TimeAI,
nor any of zone times nor any other time
existing.
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All natural sciences (like e.g. biology or cosmology) observe natural things,
Are the measurement devices natural?
No
The realm within our influence is not really science, but - for instance- engineering.
For centuries physics is spreading that absurd
crap of being a domain of a Higher Force outside
of the influence of - physicists. Time to grow
up, maybe.
Well, possibly time is now in the domaine of influence of physicists.
But: most likely time-travelers will not tell anything about their inventions!
So, even if time-travel would in fact exist, it will be (most likely) not in the hands of (common) physicists.
You've never observed a time, you've
just imagined it. Sorry.
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Well, possibly...
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BUT: we observe natural phenomena, which have a certain frequency.
No. We observe natural phenomena. Assigning
"certain frequency" to them - is absolutely
"our influence".
Well, ok...
For instance, we observe day and night or the rythims of the seasons.
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These are natural phenomena and indicate, that nature does in fact use something, what we humans call 'time'.
No, they dont indicate anything like that.
And what we humans call "time" is - what
clocks indicate. Unrelated to nature at
all.
No!!
Clocks measure time but are not time. Clocks are machines, which measure a certain quantity (time in this case).
This quantity 'time' is (of course) not created by clocks.
Actually clocks are a different kind of thing than time.
Time belongs to nature, while measuring devices belong to people.
TH
Yes, t'=t in GPS.
Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.