Re: ww3

Am Dienstag000014, 14.01.2025 um 09:53 schrieb Bertietaylor:

On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 7:15:51 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
 

Am Donnerstag000009, 09.01.2025 um 11:01 schrieb Bertietaylor:
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NATO already has ships in the Black Sea.
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Possibly yes, but there is no war between Russia and NATO till now.
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Important is, what would happen in the case of a conflict.

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Russia would get it's ass kicked even more than it's getting its ass
kicked now.

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Germany has tried to do this several times and lost every single war
with Russia- mostly very miserably.

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Bullshit, in 1ww Germany beat Russia and forced
to  a separate peace.

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True but a century earlier they thrashed the French.

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Napoleon was a shithead from Corsica and has invaded Prussia.
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The French forced Prussia to participate in the war against Russia, what
the Prussians disliked.
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The scumbag named 'Napoleon' later left the war unharmed, but the
Prussians didn't and died there in large numbers.
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 From Prussian perspective this war had the sole aim to decimate
Prussians.
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As a revenge the Prussians helped the British to destroy Napoleon in
Waterloo.

 Russians and Germans were feudal and imperial whereas France was modern
and egalitarian.
 Napoleon ranks with Alexander, Caesar and Hitler as among the four top
European leaders, for egalitarianism and modernity.

All of them did essentially the same thing:
they have sent their armies into territories, which were not theirs and forced the inhabitants of the occupied regions to fight in their army.
In case of Napoleon this was a disaster for the Prussians, which died in large numbers in the Russian winter.
That stupid corsian piece of shit didn't do that, however, but left the Prussians there to die together with the French soldiers.
Hitler did almost the same thing.
Hitlers occupation involved more serious crimes however, which were much more devastating for the German soldiers.
E.g. Hitler refused to occupy Leningrad.
This was extremely stupid, because Leningrad has a harbor and having a harbor there would allow the Wehrmacht to use ships (instead of walking through the Russian winter).
To prevent German success, the Nazis had to surround Leningrad and starved 1 million Russians to death, which was a very serious crime, too.
But it was also extremely stupid, because with occupation of Leningrad the Baltic Sea would have been entirely under German control.
That in turn would allow Navi-ships to move quite safely back and forth and that in  turn would have saved millions of lifes.
Also the Stalingrad campaign was extremely stupid and extremely deadly.
It made not sense of any kind to invade that region in the first place.
But especially the city Stalingrad was of no particular interest and the campaigned served no obvious purpose (despite wiping out an entire army).
So: Hitler was a piece of shit, too, but for very similar reasons as Napoleon.
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TH