Re: Who?

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De : relativity (at) *nospam* paulba.no (Paul.B.Andersen)
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Date : 25. Aug 2024, 12:48:41
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Den 24.08.2024 22:14, skrev Richard Hachel:
Le 24/08/2024 à 21:12, "Paul.B.Andersen" a écrit :
Den 24.08.2024 14:24, skrev Richard Hachel:
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What happens if I set two identical watches (same chronotropy) on my table and I slowly move one of them towards the moon
(let's say in three weeks to avoid a v²/c² ratio very different from 1)?
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So the two clocks on your desk are synchronous.
 Absolutely >
If we ignore the gravitational blue shift, and pretend that
the ECI frame is a true inertial frame, then the lunar clock will
lag 0.45 μs on the Earth clock.
 Which we will ignore, as you said we should.
 So we will consider the clocks to be synchronous (within 1 μs).

I notice in my telescope that when my watch marks
00:00'08" the lunar clock is desynchronized and marks 00:00'07".

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Don't be ridiculous.
 In the telescope you will see the clock showing 00:00'06.72".
Unless you are a complete moron, you will understand that
the lunar clock must have advanced 1.28" since the light
you see in the telescope was emitted.
So the clock is really 00:00'06.72" + 1.28" = 00:00'08".
 The clocks are still synchronous.

 No, they don't.
That's why I'm an exceptional being.
The greatest relativistic theorist in the entire history of humanity.
That's what makes the difference between a remarkably intelligent being like you (I've read your pdfs on the theory of relativity, and I've rarely found better presentations), and the degree above, that of a genius like me.
You don't have to be remarkable intelligent to understand that
the proper time shown by a clock won't change by being looked at.
But you have to be remarkable stupid if you don't understand that
the proper time shown by a clock won't change by being looked at.

A remarkably intelligent being will ask himself the same question, but a supremely brilliant being will not have the same answer: Why does my watch show 00:00'08" and the moon's 00:00'07".
It's one second slow, it's out of sync.
It's a strange oddity, isn't it?
But yet, it is MY answer, probably so great that we may have to wait 10, 30, or 50 years for another human being on earth to understand my incredible genius and validate all the relativistic equations that I have written (about 200).
 Well yes, sir, that is what I say, they are out of sync, they no longer mark the same time.
 It is strange, huh, sir?
Richard, you are babbling.
You do understand that you can't make the lunar clock
change its reading by looking at it, don't you?
Or don't you?
--
Paul
https://paulba.no/

Date Sujet#  Auteur
24 Aug 24 * Who?18Richard Hachel
24 Aug 24 `* Re: Who?17Paul.B.Andersen
24 Aug 24  +* Re: Who?15Richard Hachel
25 Aug 24  i`* Re: Who?14Paul.B.Andersen
25 Aug 24  i `* Re: Who?13Richard Hachel
25 Aug 24  i  `* Re: Who?12Paul.B.Andersen
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25 Aug 24  i   `* Re: Who?8Richard Hachel
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25 Aug 24  i    i`- Re: Who?1Richard Hachel
26 Aug 24  i    `* Re: Who?5Paul.B.Andersen
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