Re: Who?

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De : relativity (at) *nospam* paulba.no (Paul.B.Andersen)
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Date : 25. Aug 2024, 19:22:17
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Den 25.08.2024 14:34, skrev Richard Hachel:
Le 25/08/2024 à 13:47, "Paul.B.Andersen" a écrit :
Den 24.08.2024 22:14, skrev Richard Hachel:
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You do understand that you can't make the lunar clock
change its reading by looking at it, don't you?
Or don't you?
 Of course, I can't change lunar time by looking at it.
You have to be remarkable stupid if you don't understand that
the proper time shown by a clock won't change by being looked at.
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The genius is to say that transactions are instantaneous, and that it is men's ignorance of the correct space-time that creates this luminic illusion.
OK. Let's start again:
Hachel wrote:
| I set two identical watches (same chronotropy) on my table and
| I slowly move one of them towards the moon  (let's say in
| three weeks to avoid a v²/c² ratio very different from 1)
If we ignore the gravitational blue shift, and pretend that
the ECI frame is a true inertial frame, then the lunar clock will
lag 0.45 μs on the Earth clock.
Which we will ignore, as you said we should.
So the clocks are synchronous (within 1 μs).
Hachel wrote:
|I notice in my telescope that when my watch marks
|00:00'08" the lunar clock is desynchronized and marks 00:00'07".
Considering that transactions are instantaneous,
why do you say that the picture you see in the telescope
is 00:00'07, when it obviously should be 00:00'08" (-0.45 μs)?
Please explain.
--
Paul
https://paulba.no/

Date Sujet#  Auteur
24 Aug 24 * Who?18Richard Hachel
24 Aug 24 `* Re: Who?17Paul.B.Andersen
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