Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.

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Sujet : Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.
De : relativity (at) *nospam* paulba.no (Paul.B.Andersen)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 24. Feb 2025, 11:32:42
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Den 23.02.2025 21:59, skrev LaurenceClarkCrossen:
On Sun, 23 Feb 2025 13:49:46 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:
 
Den 22.02.2025 00:28, skrev LaurenceClarkCrossen:
If the universe is spherical the surface has no center so we cannot be
on it. We have to be in the center of that sphere because the red-shift
is exactly the same in every direction.
>
Will you never learn that the observable universe is spherical
and we are in the exact centre? :-D

That's very cheeky, Paul, but you're still ending your comments with a
"duh." Will you never learn that the velocity-distance relation places
us at the center of the actual universe, and you can't deny that by
claiming the universe is a sphere and the surface of a sphere has no
center?
You miss the point completely!
We are _obviously_ in the centre of _our_ observable universe
because the most distant light sources we can see are as far away as
the light can reach us now, which is ~46 billion light years away
in all directions.
The point is that if there are observers on a planet - say 5 billion
light years away - they will also be in the centre of their observable
universe. We see them 5 billions year ago, and at that time they would
see us 5 billion years before that, which is 10 billion years ago.
They will see a very different universe than we see.
Point being, every point in the universe is in the centre of their
visible universe.
And since the red shift is caused by expansion of the universe,
it is obvious that the red shift increases with the distance
in all direction.
An observer 5 billion ly away will observe _exactly_ the same.
Do you really not understand that?
An 2D analogy of a 3D problem:
Put a lot of dots on a baloon. Blow it up. Think!
--
Paul
https://paulba.no/

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