Re: Relativistic aberration

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Sujet : Re: Relativistic aberration
De : r.hachel (at) *nospam* wanadou.fr (Richard Hachel)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 31. Jul 2024, 18:12:31
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Le 31/07/2024 à 18:38, Sylvia Else a écrit :
On 31-July-24 10:30 pm, Richard Hachel wrote:
 "Perhaps fundamental physics is ugly. If it is, we have to live with that".
Sylvia.
 You said "perhaps".
I conclude that you are not 100% sure of your move.
 R.H.
 I'm 100% sure we don't have a proof that it's not ugly.
 Sylvia.
No. YOU say that there is no proof that it is ugly.
But I say that not only is it ugly, but that it is also completely false as soon as we enter accelerated frames of reference, ridiculous as soon as we enter rotating frames of reference, or absurd when we simply want to describe a Langevin traveler using apparent speeds (what the two protagonists could see in their telescope).
It is very UGLY, it is very false, and it borders on the ridiculous in relativistic geometry. I have already explained it a thousand times to Python, who presents himself as a great critic of scientific thought, and who does not understand anything at all of what we tell him. A bit the same for Paul B Andersen, who seems to me to be quite good in relativity, and who writes beautiful things, but when I try to correct him, and to explain things to him, he closes in on himself and does not want to go further.
Note that Paul B Andersen uses a perfectly correct formula for MATHEMATICAL integration, but on wind, when he wants to find the proper time of a uniformly accelerated object, starting at rest. Here, the formula is very beautiful, and magnificently correct. But another problem will arise this time.
He uses this on an abstract curve.
<http://news2.nemoweb.net/jntp?vAkhKvIS1BL7WPqLBTzGJgALcA8@jntp/Data.Media:1>
The blue curve here, while we must use the rotating progression of the red curve.
The red curve behaving like an elastic band.
The theory of relativity is this: a lot of elastic notions.
The Minkowski block is not beautiful, and it is frozen on itself in an abstract and physically incomprehensible structure.
In addition, it is not true.
R.H.
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