Re: the notion of counter-intuitiveness in relativistic physics

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Sujet : Re: the notion of counter-intuitiveness in relativistic physics
De : ross.a.finlayson (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Ross Finlayson)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 11. Aug 2024, 02:36:21
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On 08/10/2024 05:11 PM, gharnagel wrote:
On Sat, 10 Aug 2024 23:35:40 +0000, Richard Hachel wrote:
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Le 10/08/2024 à 23:32, hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) a écrit :
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On Sat, 10 Aug 2024 20:08:21 +0000, Richard Hachel wrote:
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As a relativistic reminder:
Vo=Vr/sqrt(1+Vr²/c²)
Vr=Vo/sqrt(1-Vo²/c²)
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u = (u' + v)/(1 + u'v/c^2) [A]
Nope.  Only the relativistic velocity composition equation is
necessary (Equation [A]), which comes directly from the LTEs:
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dx' = gamma(dx - vdt)
dt' = gamma(dt - vdx/c^2)
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dx'/dt' = (dx/dt - v)/(1 - vdx/dt/c^2)
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 Absolutely, but...
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 And y? And z?
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Surely you know that y' = y and z' = z since the motion is solely
along x.  I can only conclude, therefore, that you are obfuscating
in the grand manner of Walnut-brain Wozzie.
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But that's not what I'm talking about!
I'm talking about the notion of universal anisochrony, and the fact
that, very strangely, if we observe transverse motions,
we can never measure a speed greater than c.
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So?
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But that in the longitudinal direction, and everything proves it, both
theory and experiment, we can observe things live.
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Not live.  Light transit time delayed.  Stop saying live.  You cheapen
yourself by lying.
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There is a geometry of space-time that is real, and lots of others
(including Minkowski's that are not).
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Is there a "real" geometry of spacetime?  Geometry is a human concept.
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You give me the equation for adding longitudinal relativistic speeds as
if I didn't know it, are you kidding?
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You don't act like you know it.  Not deep down in your innards where it
counts.
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No, only do I know it, but I can give it to you in general observable
form, in general real form or in vector form.
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All I've seen is childish attempts to invent fantasies.
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I'll remind you of it here, in observable form and in real form.
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R.H.
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Since one can always align motion with the x-axis when dealing with two
bodies,
there is no purpose in sines and cosines.  Doing so is just being a
stuffed
shirt.  And it's wrong anyway: "cosu.U" means what?  What is u.U?  Do
you mean
cos(u.U), which makes no sense. Cosines and sines are dimensionless. You
need
some formal education in correct mathematical expression.
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You always try to run before you can walk.
Heh, "all you've seen".
That's not scientific.

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