Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,

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Sujet : Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,
De : ross.a.finlayson (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Ross Finlayson)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 15. Sep 2024, 03:59:55
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On 09/14/2024 03:22 PM, rhertz wrote:
And I forgot that the H-K experiment was based on a THEORETICAL
CALCULATION (uber-cooked) about the separate effect of SR and GR (read
Mudrak also).
>
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In reality, each effect CAN'T BE MEASURED SEPARATELY. You have ONE
"MEASUREMENT", which include both.
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Don't mess with public information, Paul:
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P.S.: Do you have the chance to get a life, or still thinking about what
to do with it?
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Amateur relativist posing as a physicist. Shame on you! Go back to
program PICs and so, and to teach about numeric control.
>
Oh! I forgot: you were "retired" then and now, instead of enjoy your
golden years, you're losing time with relativity. What a pity.
You really could improve your decorum, the
simple contrarian's malcontentedness is as
unjustifiable as simply adding extra dimensions
or negating absolute magnitudes whenever you
think it's convenient.
Consider for example negative time or the
anti-deSitter, vis-a-vis, the Zollfrei metric.
Now, one might aver that it's just a convenient
scratch-board for torsion and functional freedom,
vis-a-vis that it's a field theory as of a continuous
manifold and it's a gauge theory, in what's established
as the isotropic space-time according to WMAP and
CMBR, yet the Zollfrei metric is much attached to
the smooth and rough plane or Euclid and Poincare,
maintaining continuity, keeping things smooth,
or connected, instead of having a mathematical
model with un-physical things, in it, like the difference
between superstring or supercorde theory simply
as a grain of continuous background far, far below
the Planckian, and brane theory and otherwise keeping
things connected, when functional freedom has to
go away, while asymptotic freedom is a profound
fact of modern mechanics.
So, your rhetoric must simply let the mathematical model
and physical model speak for themselves, nobody gets a
say, only the formalism.
Then, smooth rhetoric can make things easier to
consider free of distraction of the profane, or obscene,
and gentle jibes may be germane and gentlemanly,
or, "this is our _unch-bowl, let's keep it that way".
The idea of the Zollfrei metric is sort of a good idea,
it gets into approaches to the Dirichlet problem as
about the Poincare rough plane and even into the
definitions of continuous as with regards to the
definitions of differentiable, and as with regards to
measure theory and the integrable and measurable,
as for the measure problem and Dirichlet problem,
as with regards to continuum mechanics, those
classical mechanics, and micro- and macro-cosmic,
continuum mechanics, which most well reflects a
paucity in principle of "least action", "least resources",
the resources of mathematical structure, and as with
regards to the mathematical model and the physical
model, and that improving the mathematical model,
automatically equips the physical model.
... And keeping it real.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
14 Sep 24 * In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,27rhertz
14 Sep 24 +* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,6LaurenceClarkCrossen
14 Sep 24 i`* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,5rhertz
14 Sep 24 i +- Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,1Ross Finlayson
14 Sep 24 i +* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,2Richard Hachel
14 Sep 24 i i`- Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,1Ross Finlayson
15 Sep 24 i `- Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,1Thomas Heger
14 Sep 24 +* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,11Paul.B.Andersen
14 Sep 24 i+- Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,1Paul.B.Andersen
15 Sep 24 i`* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,9rhertz
15 Sep 24 i +* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,7rhertz
15 Sep 24 i i`* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,6Ross Finlayson
15 Sep 24 i i `* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,5rhertz
15 Sep 24 i i  `* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,4LaurenceClarkCrossen
15 Sep 24 i i   `* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,3Ross Finlayson
15 Sep 24 i i    `* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,2Ross Finlayson
15 Sep 24 i i     `- Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,1Ross Finlayson
15 Sep 24 i `- Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,1Paul.B.Andersen
16 Sep 24 `* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,9Mikko
16 Sep 24  `* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,8rhertz
16 Sep 24   +* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,5Paul.B.Andersen
16 Sep 24   i+- Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,1Maciej Wozniak
16 Sep 24   i`* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,3rhertz
17 Sep 24   i `* Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,2Paul.B.Andersen
17 Sep 24   i  `- Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,1LaurenceClarkCrossen
17 Sep 24   +- Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,1Mikko
17 Sep 24   `- Re: In 1911, EInstein thought that photons had mass. Still in use 123 years after,1Mikko

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