Re: The HOAX of GR effects in GPS and other artificial satellites,

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Sujet : Re: The HOAX of GR effects in GPS and other artificial satellites,
De : volney (at) *nospam* invalid.invalid (Volney)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 16. Sep 2024, 08:40:13
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On 9/14/2024 9:26 PM, rhertz wrote:
Since 1911, Einstein and relativistic heirs have been rotting physics
with the fairy tale about gravity affecting time shown in any kind of
clocks (mechanical, quartz based and atomic clocks).
 In particular, and derived from 110 years old Schwarzchild's solution to
a VERY BASIC PROBLEM, it has been widely spread between relativistic
circles that ANY CLOCK raised to ANY HEIGHT above ground presents a time
or frequency difference (gravitational blue shift, from Schwarzschild
metric) of:
  Δf/f = (GMe/c²) (1/R - 1/a) , where R is the Earth's radius and "a" is
the height of the clock above ground.
 The above equation came from 1911 Einstein's paper, ratified later in
1915 through GR, that THE GRAVITATIONAL POTENTIAL Φ = -GMe/R affects EM
radiation by a factor Φ/c², increasing its energy (as the clock is
raised) to a value of  Eo (1 + Φ/c²), where Eo is the energy at ground
level.
  In simpler terms, the gravitational potential gained by a raised object
is POTENTIAL ENERGY, which affects
measured time (allegedly) if the object is a clock.
  Now, the AWFUL TRUTH that every single blind and deaf relativist CHOOSE
TO IGNORE:
 1. EVERY SINGLE SATELLITE IN STABLE ORBIT (MANNED OR NOT) HAS
MICROGRAVITY WITHIN IT, WHICH AFFECTS EVERYTHING INSIDE THE SATELLITE,
EITHER LIVE FORMS OR ARTIFACTS.
 2, FOR ANY PRACTICAL CASE, ARTIFACTS LIKE CLOCKS OPERATE AS IF g = ZERO,
DUE TO CENTRIPENTAL FORCES THAT ARE EQUAL TO GRAVITATIONAL FORCES (that
would make them to fall to Earth).
 THIS IS PHYSICALLY EQUIVALENT TO THE CASE OF A MIRROR OF EARTH PLACED AT
EQUAL DISTANCE FROM THE CENTER OF EARTH, BUT LOCATED ABOVE OF THE
SATELLITE (R vs. -R, referenced to the satellite).
 THEREFORE, THE GRAVITATIONAL POTENTIAL ACTING UPON ANY ONBOARD CLOCK IS
ZERO (MICROGRAVITY).
 
Obviously, you don't know the difference between gravitational force and gravitational potential. With a "mirror earth" above the satellite, the gravitational force would be zero, but the gravitational potential would be a bit complicated, but still higher at that midpoint than at the surface of the earth. Without it but with the satellite orbiting, the net force would be zero but the gravitational potential still higher at the satellite orbital level than at earth's surface.
You need a new hobby. The physics of relativity just isn't for you. I don't know if you simply don't understand the physics or whether your OCD just fucks up your physics abilities when relativity is involved. I'm quite certain it's the latter.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
15 Sep 24 * The HOAX of GR effects in GPS and other artificial satellites,15rhertz
15 Sep 24 +- Re: The HOAX of GR effects in GPS and other artificial satellites,1Paul.B.Andersen
15 Sep 24 +* Re: The HOAX of GR effects in GPS and other artificial satellites,8Paul.B.Andersen
15 Sep 24 i+- Re: The HOAX of GR effects in GPS and other artificial satellites,1Maciej Wozniak
15 Sep 24 i+- Re: The HOAX of GR effects in GPS and other artificial satellites,1Ross Finlayson
18 Sep 24 i`* Re: The HOAX of GR effects in GPS and other artificial satellites,5ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog
18 Sep 24 i +- Re: The HOAX of GR effects in GPS and other artificial satellites,1Paul.B.Andersen
18 Sep 24 i `* Re: The HOAX of GR effects in GPS and other artificial satellites,3gharnagel
22 Sep 24 i  `* Re: The HOAX of GR effects in GPS and other artificial satellites,2ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog
22 Sep 24 i   `- Re: The HOAX of GR effects in GPS and other artificial satellites,1Ross Finlayson
16 Sep 24 +* Re: The HOAX of GR effects in GPS and other artificial satellites,2Volney
16 Sep 24 i`- Re: The HOAX of GR effects in GPS and other artificial satellites,1Maciej Wozniak
21 Sep 24 `* Re: The HOAX of GR effects in GPS and other artificial satellites,3rhertz
21 Sep 24  +- Re: The HOAX of GR effects in GPS and other artificial satellites,1Paul.B.Andersen
21 Sep 24  `- Re: The HOAX of GR effects in GPS and other artificial satellites,1J. J. Lodder

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