Re: "In reality there is almost nothing to understand in the theory of relativity."

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Sujet : Re: "In reality there is almost nothing to understand in the theory of relativity."
De : r.hachel (at) *nospam* liscati.fr.invalid (Richard Hachel)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 09. Jan 2025, 22:21:15
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Le 09/01/2025 à 20:43, clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) a écrit :
"'When the theories of relativity were experimentally confirmed, the red
carpet was rolled out despite (or perhaps because of) the fact that
almost no one understood them.'"
 
 It's a bit true, and it's also a bit normal.
We give a calculation, an equation, a bit randomly (simply proposing the invariance of the speed of light as a basis is good, but it doesn't explain WHY) and we see that in some cases it works, so we're happy. We have something fantastic and new.
All this is very normal.
Where it's no longer normal is when someone says: "Everything is ultimately very simple, and I understood how it worked; neither Poincaré nor Einstein could find the right explanation, and I'm going to give it to you using a much simpler and more experimentally obvious basic mathematical concept" and then, a real universal miracle occurs: "We spit in his face".
Don't laugh, friends, it's not funny.
Once the principle is understood, everything is very simple.
And no more need to bother with hyperbolic geometry, ridiculous considerations (the disk contracts at the periphery but not at the radius), flagrant contradictions even at the base (in apparent speed the measurements are no longer reciprocal), incomprehension of the notion of causality, of the concreted and stupid Minkowskian block (as if space-time were geometrically a concrete block).
No, no, the relativistic problem is not so much a scientific problem as a human, moral, pathological problem. We have here thousands of men who see clearly (if they look) that something is wrong, like small pebbles in an immense grinder, but are very happy with their mathematical grinder. It does not occur to them to change the nature of the olives (the basic concepts), or to see if there are not pebbles in them. Pebbles made lovable by psychological acceptance: "We do not want Doctor Hachel to give us his opinion". We prefer to throw stones in the grinder rather than admit that he is stronger than us on these very specific problems.
R.H.
Date Sujet#  Auteur
9 Jan 25 * "In reality there is almost nothing to understand in the theory of relativity."17LaurenceClarkCrossen
9 Jan 25 +- Re: "In reality there is almost nothing to understand in the theory of relativity."1Richard Hachel
9 Jan 25 +* Re: "In reality there is almost nothing to understand in the theory of relativity."5Maciej Wozniak
9 Jan 25 i+* Re: "In reality there is almost nothing to understand in the theory of relativity."2Richard Hachel
10 Jan 25 ii`- Re: "In reality there is almost nothing to understand in the theory of relativity."1Maciej Wozniak
9 Jan 25 i+- Re: "In reality there is almost nothing to understand in the theory of relativity."1LaurenceClarkCrossen
9 Jan 25 i`- Re: "In reality there is almost nothing to understand in the theory of relativity."1LaurenceClarkCrossen
10 Jan 25 +- Re: "In reality there is almost nothing to understand in the theory of relativity."1LaurenceClarkCrossen
10 Jan 25 `* Re: "In reality there is almost nothing to understand in the theory of relativity."9LaurenceClarkCrossen
10 Jan 25  `* Re: "In reality there is almost nothing to understand in the theory of relativity."8Ross Finlayson
10 Jan 25   `* Re: "In reality there is almost nothing to understand in the theory of relativity."7Maciej Wozniak
11 Jan 25    `* Re: "In reality there is almost nothing to understand in the theory of relativity."6Ross Finlayson
11 Jan 25     `* Re: "In reality there is almost nothing to understand in the theory of relativity."5Maciej Wozniak
11 Jan 25      `* Re: "In reality there is almost nothing to understand in the theory of relativity."4Ross Finlayson
11 Jan 25       `* Re: "In reality there is almost nothing to understand in the theory of relativity."3Maciej Wozniak
12 Jan 25        `* Re: "In reality there is almost nothing to understand in the theory of relativity."2Ross Finlayson
12 Jan 25         `- Re: "In reality there is almost nothing to understand in the theory of relativity."1Maciej Wozniak

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