Re: "In reality there is almost nothing to understand in the theory of relativity."

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Sujet : Re: "In reality there is almost nothing to understand in the theory of relativity."
De : ross.a.finlayson (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Ross Finlayson)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 12. Jan 2025, 17:14:57
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On 01/11/2025 07:46 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
W dniu 11.01.2025 o 15:05, Ross Finlayson pisze:
On 01/10/2025 11:19 PM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
W dniu 11.01.2025 o 06:39, Ross Finlayson pisze:
On 01/10/2025 02:42 PM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
W dniu 10.01.2025 o 21:08, Ross Finlayson pisze:
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Leon has an interesting section in his free pdf book "Apparent
Relativity" on the laws of logic and relativity.
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In reality the principle of Relativity is merely
a negative assertion "motion is relative not absolute"
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Right, The Shit is merely an assertion.
Later on, of course, the term "confirm"
was redefined to make it "confirmed".
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There _is_ space contraction and what's involved
is "Zero-eth laws of motion" and _classical mechanics_
and under-definition in _classical mechanics_, then
that as with regards to Equivalence Principle and
gravity and G-forces, those being different, and,
the aether _not_ existing, makes way for why
the relativistic effects of _charged_ particles
are as observed, while, GR is in _front_ of SR,
with regards to mechanics.
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As said - merely an assertion.
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And in the meantime in the real world,
forbidden by your bunch of idiots
improper clocks keep measurig improper
t'=t in improper seconds.
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So, all you need to do is explain
everything all together.
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Wanna explaination? You won't like
it, but it's simple: sane people
(which control clocks in the reality)
don't give a damn to your beloved
"let's explain" game.
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Physics is more than "Newton's System
of the World"
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Well, fuck the physics. Clocks will
keep indicating t'=t and ignoring your
mad visions of what they should do,
common sense has been  warning.
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No, because that's not explaining everything
together. Don't confuse what I'm saying with
"going along" or "toeing the line", indeed
it demands revisiting _classical mechanics_
itself, that your Newtonian isn't any better.
There's much more about this in my podcasts,
though it's usually that there's talk of
philosophy and mathematics and logic and
the philosophy of science before the mechanics
and the physics.
The point though of "Moment and Motion" to
arrive at "worlds turn" about "Zero-eth laws
of motion" is that it's a continuum mechanics
and there really _is_ mathematical infinity
in mathematical physics.
Then, Relativity is a way of looking at things,
and mass-energy equivalency is various, while
still having conserved quantities of course,
if framed as continuity laws, anyways if you're
not explaining it all together it's not physics,
if though it may be a field of physics, it's
not, "the field" of physics.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
9 Jan 25 * "In reality there is almost nothing to understand in the theory of relativity."17LaurenceClarkCrossen
9 Jan 25 +- Re: "In reality there is almost nothing to understand in the theory of relativity."1Richard Hachel
9 Jan 25 +* Re: "In reality there is almost nothing to understand in the theory of relativity."5Maciej Wozniak
9 Jan 25 i+* Re: "In reality there is almost nothing to understand in the theory of relativity."2Richard Hachel
10 Jan 25 ii`- Re: "In reality there is almost nothing to understand in the theory of relativity."1Maciej Wozniak
9 Jan 25 i+- Re: "In reality there is almost nothing to understand in the theory of relativity."1LaurenceClarkCrossen
9 Jan 25 i`- Re: "In reality there is almost nothing to understand in the theory of relativity."1LaurenceClarkCrossen
10 Jan 25 +- Re: "In reality there is almost nothing to understand in the theory of relativity."1LaurenceClarkCrossen
10 Jan 25 `* Re: "In reality there is almost nothing to understand in the theory of relativity."9LaurenceClarkCrossen
10 Jan 25  `* Re: "In reality there is almost nothing to understand in the theory of relativity."8Ross Finlayson
10 Jan 25   `* Re: "In reality there is almost nothing to understand in the theory of relativity."7Maciej Wozniak
11 Jan 25    `* Re: "In reality there is almost nothing to understand in the theory of relativity."6Ross Finlayson
11 Jan 25     `* Re: "In reality there is almost nothing to understand in the theory of relativity."5Maciej Wozniak
11 Jan 25      `* Re: "In reality there is almost nothing to understand in the theory of relativity."4Ross Finlayson
11 Jan 25       `* Re: "In reality there is almost nothing to understand in the theory of relativity."3Maciej Wozniak
12 Jan 25        `* Re: "In reality there is almost nothing to understand in the theory of relativity."2Ross Finlayson
12 Jan 25         `- Re: "In reality there is almost nothing to understand in the theory of relativity."1Maciej Wozniak

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