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Den 06.02.2025 22:59, skrev rhertz:On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 20:35:17 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:Richard Hetz wrote:Time ??: Ray of light reaches ?(x')=x', in the moving frame k.>
?? = [?(x')-?(0)]/c = x'/c
Sorry, this doesn't work.
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If the light is moving from the event (?? = 0, ?? = 0) to
the event (??, ??), then we know: ??- ?? = (??-??)/c or ?? = ??/c.
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But we don't know ?? or ??, ?? = ?(x', ?t?) and ?? = ?(x', ?t?)
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We don't know these transforms yet.
You assume that ?(x', ?t?) = x' which quite certainly is wrong.
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You assume that we know the transform we are trying to find.
The EVENT ?(x', ?t?) = x', with arbitrary t=0, OR ?(x', x'/(c-v)) = x'
is
a PATHETIC ATTEMPT made by Einstein to FORCE the adoption of the value
obtained in Point 2 (perceived in K) AS IF IT MAY HAPPEN in frame k,
which
is STUPIDLY FALSE.
Yes, ?(x', ?t?) = x' is STUPIDLY FALSE, that's what I said above.
But Einstein never wrote that, you did.
You wrote ?(x') = x' which is even more STUPIDLY FALSE, because
? is a function of both x and t in K.
I've been writing here FOR YEARS that the time lapses t_B-t_A =
r_AB/(c-v) and
t'A-t_A = r_AB/(c-v) + r_AB/(c-v) ARE ESSENTIAL TO OBTAIN THE
DENOMINATOR
(c?-v?), which is the KEY FACTOR TO OBTAIN THE GAMMA FACTOR!
Check the 1904 Lorentz paper if you doubt.
:-D
The transform that follows from the postulates of GR contains
the GAMMA FACTOR with mathematical necessity.
It is a _fact_ that the Lorentz transform follows from
the postulates of SR.
This is proven many times by several physicists.
Einstein was the first to do it, but he did it in a rather
cumbersome way which, as you have demonstrated, may not
be simple to understand.
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