Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.

Liste des GroupesRevenir à sp relativity 
Sujet : Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.
De : ttt_heg (at) *nospam* web.de (Thomas Heger)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 22. Feb 2025, 08:31:51
Autres entêtes
Message-ID : <m1tcq0Fbu8uU1@mid.individual.net>
References : 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
User-Agent : Mozilla Thunderbird
Am Freitag000021, 21.02.2025 um 12:29 schrieb Richard Hachel:
Le 21/02/2025 à 09:25, Thomas Heger a écrit :
>
The photons are not affected, but space itself is.
>
The idea of GR was, that gravity is actually an effect of 'curvature', which is itself caused by gravity.
>
What gets curved is actually the 'axis of time' local to a certain part of space.
>
What we call 'space' has a certain (geometric) relation to the axis of time, if we regard the axis of time as imaginary and the axes of space as real.
>
Then we have i as a factor, by which time gets multiplied and what gives us three real axes of space.
>
This space is therefore depending on the direction of time.
>
Curvature of the axis of time is actually an acceleration in a space- time diagram, which usually has one axis of time and only one of type space.
>
Now this can 'curve' and we get gravity, which is a force, that results from such curvature.
>
Now light ('photons') pass through such a distorted space upon force free straight lines, which are actually curved in spacetime in presence of a gravitational field.
>
This pass is NOT curved by gravitation, but by curvature of space.
>
>
...
 That's what the scientists say.
I can't help but think that this is all a bit unclear.
 
Well, possibly.
But I had the idea to start at the 'GR side' and with spacetime as real physical entity.
Now I took a certain form of math called 'geometric algebra' and assumed, that nature would operate somehow similar.
This means: that what we call 'space' actually depends on the (local) axis of time.
As mathematical construct I had assumed 'bi-quaternions' (aka 'complex-four-vectors').
Now I took this as axiom and tried to connect know facts to this assumption and found out, that this works.
I had also written kind of 'book' about this concept, which I called 'structured spacetime'.
The difficult part is, that it is not based upon certain assumptions, which are commonly taken for granted. The main difference is the idea, that matter is not really real, but particles are actually 'timelike stable patterns'.
See my 'book' here:
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Ur3_giuk2l439fxUa8QHX4wTDxBEaM6lOlgVUa0cFU4/edit?usp=sharing
(It's not really a book, but till now a google doc presentation.
But it is possible to download that as pdf file).
As 'proof of concept' I used 'Growing Earth' (which I think is true).
TH

Date Sujet#  Auteur
19 Feb 25 * Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.54LaurenceClarkCrossen
19 Feb 25 +* Mass of photon? What it can't exist.3Richard Hachel
19 Feb 25 i`* Re: Mass of photon? What it can't exist.2LaurenceClarkCrossen
20 Feb 25 i `- Re: Mass of photon? What it can't exist.1Richard Hachel
19 Feb 25 +* Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.16JanPB
19 Feb 25 i+* Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.4LaurenceClarkCrossen
20 Feb 25 ii+* Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.2JanPB
20 Feb 25 iii`- Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.1LaurenceClarkCrossen
21 Feb 25 ii`- Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.1Ross Finlayson
19 Feb 25 i+* Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.3LaurenceClarkCrossen
20 Feb 25 ii`* Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.2JanPB
22 Feb 25 ii `- Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.1LaurenceClarkCrossen
19 Feb 25 i+* Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.6LaurenceClarkCrossen
20 Feb 25 ii`* Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.5JanPB
20 Feb 25 ii +* Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.3LaurenceClarkCrossen
21 Feb 25 ii i`* Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.2Richard Hachel
21 Feb 25 ii i `- Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.1LaurenceClarkCrossen
20 Feb 25 ii `- Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.1LaurenceClarkCrossen
20 Feb 25 i+- Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.1LaurenceClarkCrossen
20 Feb 25 i`- Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.1LaurenceClarkCrossen
20 Feb 25 `* Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.34LaurenceClarkCrossen
20 Feb 25  +- Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.1Richard Hachel
20 Feb 25  +* Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.31Richard Hachel
21 Feb 25  i+- Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.1LaurenceClarkCrossen
21 Feb 25  i`* Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.29Thomas Heger
21 Feb 25  i +* Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.10Richard Hachel
22 Feb 25  i i`* Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.9Thomas Heger
22 Feb 25  i i +- Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.1Ross Finlayson
22 Feb 25  i i `* Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.7Richard Hachel
22 Feb 25  i i  +* Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.5LaurenceClarkCrossen
23 Feb 25  i i  i`* Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.4Richard Hachel
23 Feb 25  i i  i +* Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.2LaurenceClarkCrossen
23 Feb 25  i i  i i`- Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.1Richard Hachel
23 Feb 25  i i  i `- Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.1Maciej Wozniak
23 Feb 25  i i  `- Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.1Thomas Heger
21 Feb 25  i +* Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.15LaurenceClarkCrossen
22 Feb 25  i i+* Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.2Thomas Heger
23 Feb 25  i ii`- Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.1Thomas Heger
22 Feb 25  i i+- Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.1LaurenceClarkCrossen
23 Feb 25  i i+* Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.10Ross Finlayson
23 Feb 25  i ii+- Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.1Richard Hachel
23 Feb 25  i ii`* Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.8LaurenceClarkCrossen
23 Feb 25  i ii `* Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.7Paul.B.Andersen
23 Feb 25  i ii  +* Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.2Maciej Wozniak
23 Feb 25  i ii  i`- Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.1LaurenceClarkCrossen
23 Feb 25  i ii  +- Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.1LaurenceClarkCrossen
24 Feb 25  i ii  +- Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.1LaurenceClarkCrossen
24 Feb 25  i ii  `* Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.2LaurenceClarkCrossen
25 Feb 25  i ii   `- Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.1Ross Finlayson
23 Feb 25  i i`- Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.1Richard Hachel
22 Feb 25  i `* Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.3LaurenceClarkCrossen
23 Feb 25  i  `* Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.2Thomas Heger
23 Feb 25  i   `- Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.1LaurenceClarkCrossen
21 Feb 25  `- Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.1Maciej Wozniak

Haut de la page

Les messages affichés proviennent d'usenet.

NewsPortal