Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.

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Sujet : Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.
De : ross.a.finlayson (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Ross Finlayson)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 28. Feb 2025, 06:05:46
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On 02/26/2025 11:06 PM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
W dniu 27.02.2025 o 05:26, Ross Finlayson pisze:
On 02/25/2025 05:27 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
guido wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> wrote:
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Op 23/02/2025 om 14:46 schreef Paul.B.Andersen:
Den 22.02.2025 20:18, skrev LaurenceClarkCrossen:
The velocity-distance relation fails to explain the redshift distance
relation because the latter is exactly the same in every direction so
the former would place us at exactly the center of the universe.
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Do you still not understand that we are in the exact centre of
the observable universe?
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He doesn't understand yet the relatitivity of the centre of the
universe ;)
(even at big bang an infinite universe is still a possibility)
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Here is Piet Hein's take on it
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THE CENTRAL POINT
A philosophistry
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I am the Universe's Centre.
No subtle sceptics can confound me;
for how can other viewpoints enter,
when all the rest is all around me?
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Hard to argue with that,
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Jan
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"I know a girl called Trampoline, ...".
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is a line from a song with these lines:
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"When I was three /
I thought the world revolved around me /
I was wrong."
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Infant
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Objectivism is a maturity phase in the
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There is no such thing and the truth "objective"
is  combined from subjective ones by voting.
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The inter-objective is a prime goal in the
matters of true "truth", with regards to the
inter-subjective, which philosophers of science
ascribe to science, and philosophers in metaphysics
connect with a merest teleology, a silver thread,
contemplations and deliberations on de res, de re,
de ratio, de natura, providing a stronger mathematical
platonism for a stronger logicist positivism.
Then, personal objectivism, where, you know, you
are real and the rest of the world is a figment,
is a usual phase of usual deeply and comprehensively
thinking being in the maturation of their philosophy.
Unfortunately, some never reach it, some never leave
it, and some just vacillate.
Yet, there are others, that there is one at all.
Anyways the inter-subjective is incompatible
with naive narcissism.
It's understood that others can understand what
that is, relayable, and relayed.
Anyways, yeah, if you're a real thinking being,
then at some point the world does revolve around you.
You can always keep that belief you believed.
Others needn't.
Anyways neither Steady State nor Big Bang is falsifiable.
Furthermore, the modern sky survey does not point at
the old Big Bang theory, and every few years the Universe
gets hundreds of millions of years older.
... Than what the old theory was, as it's been falsified.
I.e., "the most recent", if not "the current", theory, say.
Also if your logic has material implication it's wrong.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
21 Feb 25 * The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.66LaurenceClarkCrossen
21 Feb 25 +* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.59Chris M. Thomasson
21 Feb 25 i+* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.47LaurenceClarkCrossen
22 Feb 25 ii+* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.44LaurenceClarkCrossen
23 Feb 25 iii`* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.43Paul.B.Andersen
23 Feb 25 iii +- Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.1LaurenceClarkCrossen
24 Feb 25 iii +* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.39guido wugi
24 Feb 25 iii i+* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.4Thomas Heger
24 Feb 25 iii ii+* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.2guido wugi
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25 Feb 25 iii ii`- Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.1Ross Finlayson
25 Feb 25 iii i`* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.34J. J. Lodder
27 Feb 25 iii i `* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.33Ross Finlayson
27 Feb 25 iii i  +* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.6Maciej Wozniak
28 Feb 25 iii i  i`* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.5Ross Finlayson
28 Feb 25 iii i  i `* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.4Maciej Wozniak
28 Feb 25 iii i  i  `* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.3Ross Finlayson
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1 Mar 25 iii i    `* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.24J. J. Lodder
1 Mar 25 iii i     `* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.23Maciej Wozniak
1 Mar 25 iii i      `* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.22Ross Finlayson
1 Mar 25 iii i       +* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.18Maciej Wozniak
1 Mar 25 iii i       i`* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.17Ross Finlayson
1 Mar 25 iii i       i +- Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.1Ross Finlayson
2 Mar 25 iii i       i +* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.13Maciej Wozniak
2 Mar 25 iii i       i i`* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. (realism)12Ross Finlayson
2 Mar 25 iii i       i i `* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. (realism)11Maciej Wozniak
2 Mar 25 iii i       i i  `* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. (realism)10Ross Finlayson
2 Mar 25 iii i       i i   `* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. (realism)9Maciej Wozniak
2 Mar 25 iii i       i i    `* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. (realism)8Ross Finlayson
2 Mar 25 iii i       i i     `* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. (realism)7Maciej Wozniak
2 Mar 25 iii i       i i      `* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. (realism)6Ross Finlayson
3 Mar 25 iii i       i i       `* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. (realism)5Ross Finlayson
4 Mar 25 iii i       i i        `* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. (realism)4Ross Finlayson
4 Mar 25 iii i       i i         `* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. (realism)3Maciej Wozniak
4 Mar 25 iii i       i i          `* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. (realism)2Ross Finlayson
4 Mar 25 iii i       i i           `- Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. (realism)1Maciej Wozniak
2 Mar 25 iii i       i `* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.2J. J. Lodder
2 Mar 25 iii i       i  `- Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.1Ross Finlayson
2 Mar 25 iii i       `* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.3J. J. Lodder
2 Mar 25 iii i        `* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.2Ross Finlayson
2 Mar 25 iii i         `- Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.1J. J. Lodder
24 Feb 25 iii `* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.2LaurenceClarkCrossen
24 Feb 25 iii  `- Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.1guido wugi
23 Feb 25 ii`* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.2Paul.B.Andersen
24 Feb 25 ii `- Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.1Chris M. Thomasson
22 Feb 25 i+* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.7LaurenceClarkCrossen
22 Feb 25 ii+* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.2Chris M. Thomasson
22 Feb 25 iii`- Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.1LaurenceClarkCrossen
23 Feb 25 ii`* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.4Paul.B.Andersen
23 Feb 25 ii `* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.3LaurenceClarkCrossen
24 Feb 25 ii  `* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.2Paul.B.Andersen
24 Feb 25 ii   `- Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.1Maciej Wozniak
22 Feb 25 i`* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.4Thomas Heger
22 Feb 25 i `* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.3Chris M. Thomasson
23 Feb 25 i  `* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.2Thomas Heger
26 Feb 25 i   `- Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.1Chris M. Thomasson
23 Feb 25 +* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.5Paul.B.Andersen
23 Feb 25 i`* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.4LaurenceClarkCrossen
24 Feb 25 i `* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.3Paul.B.Andersen
24 Feb 25 i  `* Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.2Richard Hachel
24 Feb 25 i   `- Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.1Maciej Wozniak
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