Sujet : Re: [ANN] SR/InertialFrames v2.2.1
De : relativity (at) *nospam* paulba.no (Paul.B.Andersen)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativityDate : 26. May 2025, 19:11:47
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Den 26.05.2025 05:47, skrev Julio Di Egidio:
No, seriously, the fact with the Twins is (and this can
be shown with diagrams!) that, assuming you are the one
who travels of us two: you (the individual I am talking
to here and now) will meet an older "me" when you get
back (not the me you are talking to here and now); while
I will meet a younger "you" when, at a later (proper)
time than that, "you" get back to me!
Quite. Seriously the fact is:
At the event "we are co-located and you start your engine",
we are equally old.
At the event "reunion",
you will meet an older "me" (meaning "you are younger than me"),
and I will meet a younger "you" (meaning " I will be older than you").
Namely, there are *two* (in proper time!) separate
rendezvous "events" (the standard terminology is rather
a hindrance), and here is the Twin Paradox: what if I
decide to kill myself in between the (proper) time you
get back (the first rendezvous), where you get to see
"me", and the (later, proper) time when I am supposed
to get to my rendezvous with "you"?
What a weird idea! :-D
This is the reality:
https://paulba.no/paper/Hafele.pdfFact:
The east going clock left the ground clock when they were
synchronous. When it had travelled once around the Earth and
was back at the ground clock, the travelling clock was 59 ns
younger than the ground clock, and the ground clock was 59 ns
older than the travelling clock.
Do you claim that the event "travelling clock is back at
the ground clock", and the event "ground clock is again
co-located with the travelling clock", are two separate events,
where at the first event the travelling clock showed t-59 ns,
when it "saw" that the ground clock showed t,
and at the second event the ground clock showed t,
when it "saw" that the travelling clock showed t-59 ns?
Or what do you claim?
What did the clocks show at the reunion?
https://paulba.no/pdf/H&K_like.pdfhttps://paulba.no/pdf/TwinsByMetric.pdfhttps://paulba.no/pdf/TwinsByDoppler.pdfhttps://paulba.no/twins.html-- Paulhttps://paulba.no/