Re: [ANN] SR/InertialFrames v2.2.1

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Sujet : Re: [ANN] SR/InertialFrames v2.2.1
De : relativity (at) *nospam* paulba.no (Paul.B.Andersen)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 26. May 2025, 19:11:47
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Den 26.05.2025 05:47, skrev Julio Di Egidio:
 No, seriously, the fact with the Twins is (and this can
be shown with diagrams!) that, assuming you are the one
who travels of us two: you (the individual I am talking
to here and now) will meet an older "me" when you get
back (not the me you are talking to here and now); while
I will meet a younger "you" when, at a later (proper)
time than that, "you" get back to me!
Quite. Seriously the fact is:
At the event "we are co-located and you start your engine",
we are equally old.
At the event "reunion",
you will meet an older "me" (meaning "you are younger than me"),
and I will meet a younger "you" (meaning " I will be older than you").

 Namely, there are *two* (in proper time!) separate
rendezvous "events" (the standard terminology is rather
a hindrance), and here is the Twin Paradox: what if I
decide to kill myself in between the (proper) time you
get back (the first rendezvous), where you get to see
"me", and the (later, proper) time when I am supposed
to get to my rendezvous with "you"?
What a weird idea! :-D
This is the reality:
https://paulba.no/paper/Hafele.pdf
Fact:
The east going clock left the ground clock when they were
synchronous. When it had travelled once around the Earth and
was back at the ground clock, the travelling clock was 59 ns
younger than the ground clock, and the ground clock was 59 ns
older than the travelling clock.
Do you claim that the event "travelling clock is back at
the ground clock", and the event "ground clock is again
co-located with the travelling clock", are two separate events,
where at the first event the travelling clock showed t-59 ns,
when it "saw" that the ground clock showed t,
and at the second event  the ground clock showed t,
when it "saw" that the travelling clock showed t-59 ns?
Or what do you claim?
What did the clocks show at the reunion?
https://paulba.no/pdf/H&K_like.pdf
https://paulba.no/pdf/TwinsByMetric.pdf
https://paulba.no/pdf/TwinsByDoppler.pdf
https://paulba.no/twins.html
--
Paul
https://paulba.no/

Date Sujet#  Auteur
21 May 25 * [ANN] SR/InertialFrames v2.2.133Julio Di Egidio
24 May14:16 +- Re: [ANN] SR/InertialFrames v2.2.11Julio Di Egidio
24 May15:48 +* Re: [ANN] SR/InertialFrames v2.2.114Ross Finlayson
24 May16:21 i`* Re: [ANN] SR/InertialFrames v2.2.113Julio Di Egidio
24 May18:34 i +- Re: [ANN] SR/InertialFrames v2.2.11Otniel Abuhov
24 May18:53 i +* Re: [ANN] SR/InertialFrames v2.2.15Ross Finlayson
25 May05:31 i i`* Re: [ANN] SR/InertialFrames v2.2.14Thomas Heger
25 May12:46 i i +* Re: [ANN] SR/InertialFrames v2.2.12Julio Di Egidio
26 May07:18 i i i`- Re: [ANN] SR/InertialFrames v2.2.11Thomas Heger
25 May15:26 i i `- Re: [ANN] SR/InertialFrames v2.2.11Ross Finlayson
25 May12:08 i `* Re: [ANN] SR/InertialFrames v2.2.16Paul.B.Andersen
25 May15:22 i  +* Re: [ANN] SR/InertialFrames v2.2.14Maciej Woźniak
25 May15:34 i  i`* Re: [ANN] SR/InertialFrames v2.2.13Delman Vamvakidis
25 May15:52 i  i `* Re: [ANN] SR/InertialFrames v2.2.12Maciej Woźniak
25 May15:57 i  i  `- Re: [ANN] SR/InertialFrames v2.2.11Arden Vassilopulos
25 May15:27 i  `- Re: [ANN] SR/InertialFrames v2.2.11Walton Molnár
25 May20:46 `* Re: [ANN] SR/InertialFrames v2.2.117Julio Di Egidio
25 May22:08  +- Re: [ANN] SR/InertialFrames v2.2.11Bladimir Rudawski
26 May01:41  `* Re: [ANN] SR/InertialFrames v2.2.115Ross Finlayson
26 May04:47   `* Re: [ANN] SR/InertialFrames v2.2.114Julio Di Egidio
26 May05:19    +* Re: [ANN] SR/InertialFrames v2.2.12Ross Finlayson
26 May05:42    i`- Re: [ANN] SR/InertialFrames v2.2.11Julio Di Egidio
26 May15:34    +* Re: [ANN] SR/InertialFrames v2.2.13Julio Di Egidio
27 May17:44    i`* Re: [ANN] SR/InertialFrames v2.2.12Ross Finlayson
27 May23:35    i `- Re: [ANN] SR/InertialFrames v2.2.11Julio Di Egidio
26 May19:11    `* Re: [ANN] SR/InertialFrames v2.2.18Paul.B.Andersen
26 May20:17     `* Re: [ANN] SR/InertialFrames v2.2.17Python
26 May21:30      `* Re: [ANN] SR/InertialFrames v2.2.16Maciej Woźniak
26 May21:42       `* Re: [ANN] SR/InertialFrames v2.2.15Python
26 May22:49        `* Re: [ANN] SR/InertialFrames v2.2.14Maciej Woźniak
26 May23:12         `* Re: [ANN] SR/InertialFrames v2.2.13Python
27 May00:28          `* Re: [ANN] SR/InertialFrames v2.2.12Richard Hachel
27 May21:23           `- Re: [ANN] SR/InertialFrames v2.2.11Ross Finlayson

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