Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2

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Sujet : Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2
De : polcott333 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : comp.theory sci.logic
Date : 15. Jun 2024, 14:17:20
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On 6/15/2024 7:57 AM, Python wrote:
Le 15/06/2024 à 14:30, olcott a écrit :
...
If there is no mapping form the input to H(D,D) to the behavior
of D(D) then H is not being asked about the behavior of D(D).
 Of course it is: by *definition* of H.
  
In other words you can show the detailed steps of this mapping
even though Richard cannot.
On 6/13/2024 8:24 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
 > On 6/13/24 11:32 AM, olcott wrote:
 >>
 >> It is contingent upon you to show the exact steps of how H computes
 >> the mapping from the x86 machine language finite string input to
 >> H(D,D) using the finite string transformation rules specified by
 >> the semantics of the x86 programming language that reaches the
 >> behavior of the directly executed D(D)
 >>
 >
 > Why? I don't claim it can.
_D()
[00000cfc](01) 55          push ebp
[00000cfd](02) 8bec        mov ebp,esp
[00000cff](03) 8b4508      mov eax,[ebp+08]
[00000d02](01) 50          push eax       ; push D
[00000d03](03) 8b4d08      mov ecx,[ebp+08]
[00000d06](01) 51          push ecx       ; push D
[00000d07](05) e800feffff  call 00000b0c  ; call H
[00000d0c](03) 83c408      add esp,+08
[00000d0f](02) 85c0        test eax,eax
[00000d11](02) 7404        jz 00000d17
[00000d13](02) 33c0        xor eax,eax
[00000d15](02) eb05        jmp 00000d1c
[00000d17](05) b801000000  mov eax,00000001
[00000d1c](01) 5d          pop ebp
[00000d1d](01) c3          ret
Size in bytes:(0034) [00000d1d]
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hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

Date Sujet#  Auteur
15 Jun 24 * H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V262olcott
15 Jun 24 +* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V211Richard Damon
15 Jun 24 i`* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V210olcott
15 Jun 24 i +* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V23Richard Damon
15 Jun 24 i i`* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V22olcott
15 Jun 24 i i `- Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V21Richard Damon
15 Jun 24 i `* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V26joes
15 Jun 24 i  `* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V25olcott
15 Jun 24 i   +* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V23Python
15 Jun 24 i   i`* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V22olcott
15 Jun 24 i   i `- Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V21Richard Damon
15 Jun 24 i   `- Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V21Richard Damon
15 Jun 24 +* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V26Fred. Zwarts
15 Jun 24 i`* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V25olcott
15 Jun 24 i +- Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V21Richard Damon
15 Jun 24 i `* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V23Fred. Zwarts
15 Jun 24 i  `* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V22olcott
15 Jun 24 i   `- Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V21Richard Damon
15 Jun 24 `* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V244Mikko
15 Jun 24  `* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V243olcott
15 Jun 24   +- Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V21Richard Damon
16 Jun 24   `* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V241Mikko
16 Jun 24    `* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V240olcott
16 Jun 24     +* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V236joes
16 Jun 24     i+- Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V21Python
16 Jun 24     i+* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V232olcott
16 Jun 24     ii+* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V230Alan Mackenzie
16 Jun 24     iii`* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V229olcott
16 Jun 24     iii +* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V27Richard Damon
16 Jun 24     iii i`* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V26olcott
16 Jun 24     iii i `* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V25Richard Damon
16 Jun 24     iii i  `* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V24olcott
16 Jun 24     iii i   `* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V23Richard Damon
17 Jun 24     iii i    `* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V22olcott
18 Jun 24     iii i     `- Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V21Richard Damon
16 Jun 24     iii +* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V219Alan Mackenzie
16 Jun 24     iii i+- Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V21Richard Damon
16 Jun 24     iii i+* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V211André G. Isaak
17 Jun 24     iii ii+* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V29Python
17 Jun 24     iii iii`* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V28Richard Damon
17 Jun 24     iii iii +- Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V21André G. Isaak
17 Jun 24     iii iii +* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V24André G. Isaak
17 Jun 24     iii iii i+- Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V21Richard Damon
17 Jun 24     iii iii i`* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V22olcott
18 Jun 24     iii iii i `- Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V21Richard Damon
17 Jun 24     iii iii `* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V22olcott
18 Jun 24     iii iii  `- Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V21Richard Damon
17 Jun 24     iii ii`- Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V21olcott
17 Jun 24     iii i+- Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V21olcott
17 Jun 24     iii i`* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V25olcott
17 Jun 24     iii i +* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V23Fred. Zwarts
17 Jun 24     iii i i`* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V22olcott
17 Jun 24     iii i i `- Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V21Fred. Zwarts
18 Jun 24     iii i `- Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V21Richard Damon
17 Jun 24     iii `* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V22Mikko
17 Jun 24     iii  `- Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V21olcott
16 Jun 24     ii`- Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V21Richard Damon
17 Jun 24     i`* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V22Mikko
17 Jun 24     i `- Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V21olcott
16 Jun 24     +- Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V21Richard Damon
17 Jun 24     `* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V22Mikko
17 Jun 24      `- Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V21olcott

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