Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally?

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Sujet : Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally?
De : richard (at) *nospam* damon-family.org (Richard Damon)
Groupes : comp.theory sci.logic
Date : 28. Apr 2024, 02:49:28
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On 4/27/24 8:17 PM, olcott wrote:
Can D simulated by H terminate normally?
 The x86utm operating system based on an open source x86 emulator.
This system enables one C function to execute another C function
in debug step mode. When H simulates D it creates a separate process
context for D with its own memory, stack and virtual registers. H
is able to simulate D simulating itself, thus the only limit to
recursive simulations is RAM.
 // The following is written in C
//
01 typedef int (*ptr)(); // pointer to int function
02 int H(ptr x, ptr y)    // uses x86 emulator to simulate its input
03
04 int D(ptr x)
05 {
06   int Halt_Status = H(x, x);
07   if (Halt_Status)
08     HERE: goto HERE;
09   return Halt_Status;
10 }
11
12 void main()
13 {
14   D(D);
15 }
 Execution Trace
Line 14: main() invokes D(D)
 keeps repeating (unless aborted)
Line 06: simulated D(D) invokes simulated H(D,D) that simulates D(D)
 Simulation invariant
D correctly simulated by H cannot possibly reach its own line 09.
 Is it dead obvious to everyone here when examining the execution
trace of lines 14 and 06 above that D correctly simulated by H cannot
possibly terminate normally by reaching its own line 09?
 
Except that you fail to mention that you have admitted that you are NOT working on the Halting Problem, despite trying to use terminology similar to it, but having stipulated definition that are in conflict with computaiton theory.
Note, "keeps repeating (unless aborted)" is a misleading statement, as your H will ALWAYS abort this input, and thus it NEVER will "Keep repeating".
You don't like me pointing out the problem because you prefer to be able to LIE to people about what you are doing.
You work has NOTHING to do with Halting, as your H/D are not even turing equivalenet to their namesakes in the proof you like to mention.

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28 Apr 24 * Can D simulated by H terminate normally?351olcott
28 Apr 24 +* Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally?35Richard Damon
28 Apr 24 i`* Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally?34olcott
28 Apr 24 i `* Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally?33Richard Damon
28 Apr 24 i  `* Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally?32olcott
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29 Apr 24 i   i         i    i`- Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? POE1Richard Damon
29 Apr 24 i   i         i    `* Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? POE6olcott
29 Apr 24 i   i         i     `* Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? POE5Richard Damon
29 Apr 24 i   i         i      `* Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? POE4olcott
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