Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ###

On 5/30/2024 5:10 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:

Op 28.mei.2024 om 17:13 schreef olcott:

On 5/28/2024 4:21 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:

Op 27.mei.2024 om 17:43 schreef olcott:

On 5/27/2024 9:58 AM, Richard Damon wrote:

On 5/27/24 10:39 AM, olcott wrote:

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typedef int (*ptr)();  // ptr is pointer to int function in C
00       int H(ptr p, ptr i);
01       int D(ptr p)
02       {
03         int Halt_Status = H(p, p);
04         if (Halt_Status)
05           HERE: goto HERE;
06         return Halt_Status;
07       }
08
09       int main()
10       {
11         H(D,D);
12         return 0;
13       }
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The above template refers to an infinite set of H/D pairs where D is
correctly simulated by either pure simulator H or pure function H. This
was done because many reviewers used the shell game ploy to endlessly
switch which H/D pair was being referred to.
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Correct Simulation Defined
    This is provided because many reviewers had a different notion of
    correct simulation that diverges from this notion.
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    A simulator is an x86 emulator that correctly emulates 1 to N of the
    x86 instructions of D in the order specified by the x86 instructions
    of D. This may include M recursive emulations of H emulating itself
    emulating D.
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When we see that D correctly simulated by pure simulator H would remain
stuck in infinite recursive simulation then we also know that less than
an infinite number of steps is not enough steps for D correctly
simulated by pure function H to reach its own simulated final state at
line 06 and halt.
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We can equally well replace D with H.

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Only if we want to use the DISHONEST DODGE STRAW-MAN DECEPTION
CHANGE-THE-SUBJECT FAKE REBUTTAL.
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My use of the point-by-pint basis of the Socratic method tosses
such attempts out as Trolling.

 You do not even understand your own subject. I am just showing that your H does not halt, according to its own judgement. So, your simulating H is not in agreement with the requirement that it should halt. If the simulation of H would halt (as is the requirement), then D would reach line 04. The only reason D, the parameter duplicator, does not reach line 04 is that H does not halt.
 

This is incorrect. Only the directly executed outermost H must halt.
Everything else is merely data to this directly executed H.
typedef int (*ptr)();  // ptr is pointer to int function in C
00       int H(ptr p, ptr i);
01       int D(ptr p)
02       {
03         int Halt_Status = H(p, p);
04         if (Halt_Status)
05           HERE: goto HERE;
06         return Halt_Status;
07       }
08
09       int main()
10       {
11         H(D,D);
12         return 0;
13       }
The above template refers to an infinite set of H/D pairs where D is
correctly simulated by either pure simulator H or pure function H.  This
was done because many reviewers used the shell game ploy to endlessly
switch which H/D pair was being referred to.
H correctly simulates 1 to ∞ steps of D with either pure function H or
pure simulator H. In none of these cases does the correctly simulated D
ever reach its own simulated final state and halt.
Whenever H is a pure function then H always halts.
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