Re: The error of the halting problem

On 6/3/24 10:32 PM, olcott wrote:

On 6/3/2024 9:26 PM, Richard Damon wrote:

On 6/3/24 10:14 PM, olcott wrote:

On 6/3/2024 8:58 PM, Richard Damon wrote:

On 6/3/24 9:51 PM, olcott wrote:

>
When H is asked a yes/no question where both answers are
contradicted by its input *IT IS A FREAKING RIGGED GAME*

>
But both answers aren't wrong. Remember, the question is built to make a SPECIFIC decider wrong, and by its algorithm, it will give a SPECIFIC answer to each SPECIFIC question.
>

>
You can't get away with that head game by pretending
to not understand what infinite an set of H/D pairs is.

>
But it doesn't matter.
>

 It matters enormously. Once we fully understand that the limits
of computation were always a ruse then we can give computation
the priority that it truly deserves. It might be the life on earth
is killed off because we did not build a semantic lie detector
quickly enough.

But you are working on it wrong, because you just don't understand the actual nature of truth.
There ARE limits to Computation, and to the ability to logically prove something, because the available complexity grows faster than the power to solve.
We CAN built a "Lie Detector" that can detect MOST lies (or most of the important lies), just not ALL.
You are letting the desire to be PERFECT (which you can't be) get in the way of being GOOD ENOUGH.
And you don't understand the human nature (because you have fallen for it too) that just because we can prove something, doesn't mean people will believe it.
YOU are the perfect example. It has been proven MANY TIMES that you are wrong, but, just like the election denies, you just refuse to look at the evidence.
By claiming the rules don't matter, then nothing is actually true, so in one sense, your arguments are just dooming your goal.

 

The key is that EVERY element of that infinite set gives the wrong answer for its particular input, or it doesn't answer (which is also a "wrong answer").
>

 Only because of the Liar Paradox ruse.
 

Nope.
You just don't seem to be able to understand, I guess you are just too Stupid.
There IS a correct answer to the question posed to H, H just doesn't give it.