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On 6/12/24 11:40 AM, olcott wrote:In other words you are trying to get away with saying that theOn 6/12/2024 6:33 AM, Richard Damon wrote:How many times did you reference "Physical" in this statement from above?On 6/11/24 11:20 PM, olcott wrote:>On 6/11/2024 10:01 PM, Richard Damon wrote:>On 6/11/24 10:58 PM, olcott wrote:>On 6/11/2024 9:34 PM, Richard Damon wrote:>On 6/11/24 9:43 PM, olcott wrote:>On 6/11/2024 6:22 PM, Richard Damon wrote:>On 6/11/24 1:30 PM, olcott wrote:>On 6/10/2024 10:32 PM, Richard Damon wrote:>On 6/10/24 12:09 PM, olcott wrote:>>>
When we ask the question: What is a truthmaker? The generic answer is
whatever makes an expression of language true <is> its truthmaker.
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This entails that if there is nothing in the universe that makes
expression X true then X lacks a truthmaker and is untrue.
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Then it is self-evident that this <is> the way that truth really works.
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So, how does that apply to something that isn't a part of "the universe", as Formal Logic systems are not.
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*STOPPING AT YOUR FIRST RIDICULOUSLY HUGE MISTAKE*
In other words you are saying that formal system have never
existing in any way what-so-ever?
Nope, and I don't see where you get that from, except to not understand the meaning of a universe.
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The universe is all of space and time[a] and their contents.
It comprises all of existence, any fundamental interaction, physical
process and physical constant, and therefore all forms of energy and
matter, and the structures they form, from sub-atomic particles to
entire galactic filaments. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universe
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AKA *EVERYTHING* Duh !
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But it is only ONE of an infinite number of such systems.
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So I have to dumb it down for you: *EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE*
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Let me dumb it down for you:
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So, where are the Natural Numbers is THIS UNIVERSE?
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How can the finite universe hold all of the infinite set?
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How about the bigger set of the Reals?
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Answer me please.
Algorithmic compression.
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And where does THAT exist as something physical in the universe?
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Where did I ever say that I am restricting this to physical things?
Truth itself is a pure mental abstraction.
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>What in that refers to anything not related to physical objects and their interactions?
The universe is all of space and time[a] and their contents.
It comprises all of existence, any fundamental interaction, physical
process and physical constant, and therefore all forms of energy and
matter, and the structures they form, from sub-atomic particles to
entire galactic filaments. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universe
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AKA *EVERYTHING* Duh !
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Where do "Natural Numbers" fit in there?
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