Re: Ben thinks the professor Sipser is wrong

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Sujet : Re: Ben thinks the professor Sipser is wrong
De : richard (at) *nospam* damon-family.org (Richard Damon)
Groupes : comp.theory sci.logic
Date : 05. Jul 2024, 03:08:32
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On 7/4/24 10:01 PM, olcott wrote:
On 7/4/2024 8:56 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 7/4/24 9:35 PM, olcott wrote:
>
_DDD()
[00002172] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping
[00002173] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
[00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD
[0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD)
[0000217f] 83c404     add esp,+04
[00002182] 5d         pop ebp
[00002183] c3         ret
Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]
>
*In other words you are denying the verified fact*
That when DDD emulated by HHH according to the
semantics of the x86 language calls HHH(DDD) that
this call cannot possibly return.
>
No, if HHH(DDD) returns, then by the semantics of the x86 language, and the fact that DDD calls the exact same code sequence as the call from main calls, the call to HHH will return, just after HHH stops its emulation.
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And by the x86 language, the "behavior" doesn't stop just because the HHH stopped emulating the bytes, because the x86 langugage the byte specify doesn't know that will happen.
>
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*By denying this verified fact you are affirming*
That when DDD emulated by HHH according to the
semantics of the x86 language calls HHH(DDD) that
*THIS CALL CAN RETURN*
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Yes, just not in the emulation that HHH does.
>
 OK liar I give up.
 
So, you don't understand what the semantics of the x86 language actually is?
YOU are the one that keeps on making claims that you can't show actual sources for.
Maybe your confusion is that it isn't listed for each individual instruction, but as a general rule for instruction sequencing.

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4 Jul 24 * Ben thinks the professor Sipser is wrong19olcott
4 Jul 24 `* Re: Ben thinks the professor Sipser is wrong18Richard Damon
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